Crypto, Through The Tulips, RV



It’s time to move to a fresh thread. Barring any new updates or releases from the official White Hat blog, this thread will remain until the end of the year. All previous threads are still available for reading by accessing the archives.

By now it is no surprise that a rather quiet posture has set in from our sources. Between reports of Elders sojourning in London, and being told that RV specifics are not possible, one can only surmise that the progress is of a forward nature. In the past, progress of a backwards nature was always quick to be released and outlined in no uncertain terms. Despite many weeks passing since the silence has started, no “slipping” has been reported so far. I will leave it to you to determine just what “silence” can possibly mean at this time.

We never started out to be a crypto blog, but many of you are taking more of an interest in this new space and the desire to obtain transformational gains is certainly understood. Given the ongoing RV delays and uncertainty about the final numbers, the needs are certainly understandable. I have done what I could to impart simple rules to keep you safe while positioning yourself for possible future gains. Many have shared their experiences with me, and I am happy to report that almost all of those who have, did great jobs in being disciplined, safe and prudent in their approach.

As I mentioned previously in the last thread, my main anxiety now is that of timing. While an RV is not needed for one to experience a potential windfall from expected crypto value increases, it certainly would be optimum if additional capital could be safely committed before institutional funds are unleashed into the crypto world. We can only hope that fair winds, and the silence from the top, will augur well for events to happen sooner rather than later.

For now, “news risk”  will be impacting on crypto prices due to relative thin liquidity and the naivety and unsophisticated nature of most who hold BTC at this time. Don’t let such shake you loose. In advance of what we know is on the horizon, it is at this time that you must hold on. All manner of jabberwoky will be hurled at you in an effort to make you give up. You should easily repel such urges by safe position sizes. If you find yourself chewing your knuckles when prices go against you, then you probably put in too much in relation to your bankroll, and are now going to doubt yourself. When doubt creeps in, wealth creeps out.

When it comes to speculation of this kind, I have seen people driven to hysterical frenzies resembling rapid-fire schizophrenia intermixed with near uncontrollable urges to crap into their hands and rub it in their hair, just because they heard one financial analyst say one thing, then another one says something different. They don’t know how to maintain a stable position. As a result, they buy and sell themselves into a vat of buttermilk as they chase one opinion after another. Such is the price to pay for letting “news” run your decision. We have seen major institutions bash BTC mercilessly with one hand, and then turn around with the other hand and buy it. Major players like Soros have also been caught doing this. Your antidote against such slimeballs is just to take your position and hold. Otherwise, you are just placing your ship into the hands of a gorilla with ADD.

Binance made more money than Deutsche Bank last year. But no, that’s conveniently ignored because, after all, crypto is a scam. They say BTC is doomed because the electricity used to validate the transactions will exceed that used by Japan in a year. But they forget to tell you that current banking infrastructure already uses 3 times the annual electrical usage of Japan. Godzilla is a bigger threat than crypto is. This is the kind of rhetoric you will encounter in a concerted effort to give up. If you do, someone will come along and buy what you sell – most likely the same interests who convinced you to give up.

If there is truly any value in what you are holding, then time will prove it. Not the opinions of others. There is only one way to find out. Commit to a course of action and don’t vary from it.

The monopoly of money creation and transmission is being challenged by distributed ledger technology. True, the powers that be are also interested, but they will have to share that plateau now, and not be able to exclusively dominate the wire systems where they could take as they saw fit without the ability for others to see it so clearly. Multiple well financed and quality DLT platforms are now coming on line, some completely impenetrable, offering commoners to operate as if a fully equipped bank with the ability to transfer value from point to point, in privacy. This ability, and not straw man, sovereign citizen, UCC, or other regressive legal blather issued by cloistered, self-anointed saviors with cult status at best, will force the changes that so many want to see. The ability to compete equally based on a great technological equalizer will be the key, in my opinion. This will create a whole new angle and fresh plan of attack that few saw coming.

WHA has pretty much accomplished what I wanted with it – introducing people who had an interest in the RV to the right sources for accurate information, and to expose RV/GCR parvenus for what they largely were – overnight shape-shifting opportunists who found a warm pliant market for their income spiel du jour.

From now until the end of 2018 we will patiently await events to run their natural course, and will do what we can to convey news and information as needed. In January we will reassess the lay of the land. If paper exits have occurred by then, closing this particular effort will most likely be the wisest course of action.

It has been a wild ride. So, let’s prepare for all possible outcomes. Thank you for your readership and your participation. I sincerely hope 2018 will see some long awaited releases finally accomplished. Those who have devoted time and effort in advance of such, certainly deserve it.


There is one kind of robber whom the law does not strike at, and who steals what is most precious to men: time. – Napoleon Bonaparte


  1. Happy New Year Everyone here at WHA,
    Just a note of thanks to all the wonderful people here at WHA for your support and fantastic contributions during 2018. It has been a true pleasure spending time here with you all. I wish everyone an awesome 2019 and hope much peace, satisfaction and happiness flows to each of you throughout the year.

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  2. Happy New Year Tony,
    Just wanted to wish you a magnificent year ahead and thank you so much for sticking around with us during 2018. You have gone above and beyond in your support and education throughout the year. You have brightened many of my days with your humor. One thing that always stood out to me was your genuine care and concern for everyone here, that really touched me. You are an awesome man Tony and it has been my absolute pleasure to have the opportunity to share and communicate with you for another year. THANK YOU SO MUCH TONY.

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      1. Thank you so much for your kind message and wishes Tony, I appreciate that very much.
        I have a feeling 2019 will bring a good dose of happiness in many ways.


      1. d’Ambrosio and Betori need to take a permanent trip to their self created hell right where they belong. Salvini is making the right moves for his country and people regarding this matter. I support him totally.

        Have you ever been to Poland before Tony?


          1. Ha Ha Tony. That is fantastic news. I have always been interested to learn more about Poland for some reason. When I was much younger I worked with a beautiful young lady from Poland. She was such a gorgeous person, so kind, gentle and genuine. I had always hoped that she was a good representation of all Polish people.

            Well, if you are taking that trip this year I would very much look forward to hearing all about it upon your return. That would be truly fantastic.


  3. How Blockchain’s Creating the New Financial System

    “…The race is on to build a fully compliant tokenization platform where any asset or business project can quickly and easily raise funds from anyone and list, manage, and trade tokens…A system that is more open, where assets are available to anyone with an internet connection. A system that looks much more like a truly free market…And opportunities for the smart speculator abound…”


  4. Tony please look at this before you post it. At the 15:08 mark they start talking about crypto currencies as a way of payment for this disgusting thing called Adrenochrome (ADC). You may choose to not post this and if you do I will know why. When I see things like this associated with crypto currencies it makes me wonder.


  5. Dave has new information about the currency exchange…. couldn’t he send an email?

    Dave Schmidt:

    It’s always a pleasure to return to the Northeast portion of our country. This is my 2nd time in Baltimore and thank you to all the wonderful and faithful people who have attended in the past, you always make it an enjoyable experience.

    I have added new material to the workshop and others have said it is better than ever before. I also have some new information regarding the currency exchange that I can share personally but not over the internet. Come and join us on Jan. 19th in Baltimore.


    1. I am willing to wager that almost everything he shares for $$ is freely available here or at OWoN. At least, insofar as it being appropriate to share is concerned.

      If he can’t share it over the Internet, then he should not be sharing it, period. Either way, if it’s leaked by one person over the Internet, out is out.

      There’s gold in them thar RV audiences.

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      1. I live in the Baltimore area… I can pay $129 if I go alone, or I can save $30 if I take someone with me since we can pay $99 each…that sounds like a bargain.
        Here are some details about the seminar and some comments from prior attendees.

        This is truly sad… I hope this ends soon…gain or no gain

        Are we ready for the “New Paradigm of Money and Life?” We all want to experience and benefit from the upcoming RV/GCR, you wouldn’t be reading this information if you did not! But, the question is…….do we know what to do when the shift takes place? This workshop will give you the reason behind the RV/GCR, and the part we are playing in this World-Changing-Event. We will talk about the shift in the role money and banks play in changing our world. We also discuss, the gold, what is the purpose and role of this gold funding the currency exchanges and where does it come from. In the last session we will discuss the power of human thought and how to effects the use of your money to attract joy, happiness and fulfillment into your life… well as helping others in creating a new and better world.

        Here’s what previous attendees have to say:

        THERE ARE TIMES “THANK YOU” IS NOT ENOUGH. Anyway, Thank you! P.L. from Texas
        “I attended Dave’s workshop in Minneapolis and encourage others who might be considering attending to go for it! This all day event is well worth the money and time spent. Dave packs the day with his latest information, and as he mentions on his broadcasts, he shares much more than he can on the radio show. He gives a very complete picture from a historical and current perspective. This was my second time attending Dave’s workshop and many folks are repeat attendees. It’s obvious Dave loves doing the workshops and he keeps getting better at presenting them. He allows plenty of time for questions at the end as well. Again, highly recommended!!” P.H. from MN
        Dave just wanted to thank you again for providing the scholarship. It was an AWESOME meeting; I didn’t want it to end. Good information; great comaradrie? among all the folks there. BS from Ft. Worth, TX
        This past weekend, I can’t say or thank you enough. I would recommend your meeting for all regardless of how much or how little they know. For those who think they are lacking in knowledge will learn much, for those that have been in this for awhile and longer will take away great nuggets of knowledge. What was truly the icing on the cake was meeting all the other attendees. It was great to meet new friends from BC, DC UT, LA,TX….
        I loved the seminar, it was very energetic and powerful felt. I truly appreciate your great character. KL from Texas


        1. I am being sarcastic when I talked about going… I would never pay money,nor waste my time going to Dave’s seminar. I used to have a lot of respect for Dave because he is one of the few people in Dinarland that uses his real name. Now he is taking advantage of good people. I hope this RV/GCR thing ends soon. It is very sad to see kind, caring people used like this.


        2. Remember, he is “the only one” allowed to share information. He has survived multiple assassination attempts, psychic weaponry and dark energy beams designed to take him out before he discloses too much information to the entire world. He has seemingly defeated the most powerful forces to stay alive. Wow. What a guy. He has the ability to suddenly shape-shift into an expert in finance and human psychology and thought processes, as if by magic. Of course, his highly sophisticated audiences are just endlessly congratulating themselves for actually paying for information that you could easily find for free on this wonderful tool called the Internet.

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          1. Baltimore is very close to the Swamp…if they want to get him, now would be the time…lol

            Happy New Year to you and your family Tony..

            As always, thanks for all that you do. You have been a tremendous help to me. I’m looking for a way to get into cryptos early in 2019

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  6. Why Cryptos like Bitcoin, Monero, and Zcash matter for FREEDOM:

    [I am redacting this link because it was directing to a promo link for a free Walmart gift card and could be malicious – WHA]


    1. Sorry I did not catch that before I posted it, I would have copied and pasted the text within the article instead of copying and pasting the link which redirected to that unwanted page.

      Tony, please post this message instead of the last one I just posted. The other one had two sentences back to back that gave the wrong message…. a message I was not intending to give, but came about because of related thought. Thanks.


  7. My favorite OWoN post from the summer of 2016 revisited with rates speculated within it: The insight given that the big battalions are coming out of Reno is a significant insight into legit groups coming from Reno and what we can call some of them. BIG BATTALIONS. We just read a recent post not too long ago about Reno and what is about to take place.


    Q: Its very exciting. Vietnam has a 200B gdp and 100M people while its currebcy is at 20,000:1. Even at 5,000:1 its gdp equals Australia’s with a middle class 5 times larger. Watching with interest. The high speed trains give joy to the boy within me :)))) For what it’s worth pls pass on my good luck and support.

    A: AJ. So what IF you got a Dong rate of 1.2 and a Dinar rate of 5.3? Just “Guessing”??? But are you in the big battalions or Sovereigns to get it? The public? Who knows. Good luck AJ. Dream big. Watch this site.

    Q: J, What is a big battalion? Is your money already in Reno and counted if you are in a group? Just curious as I am not in any group. The only groups I have heard of are Admirals and Generals 64. How many groups are there?

    A: Think Reno or Sovereigns. There is no infrastructure planned or time for the rest. 4 or 5 large groups plus the Sovereigns does the job. The rest, who knows? Or how they can get out. At least with Dongs you have some existing structure. Dinars it’s a quandary. The details for Public issues are still in debate. The Public holdings are small inconsequential amounts,so do they try to accommodate it over time,or just view it as a S*** fly swarm and spray it. The Big Battalions are the ones who got organised and went into syndicates ready to do mass volume redemptions. They sit with audited mass volumes ready.They and the Sovereigns are first. They mass convert in Reno. Done.

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    1. Hope I don’t get clobbered here, but honest question. Before I ask, let me make it clear that while I invested in some Dong, I think of them like other investments I have- hold long term. I figured if nothing happens in my lifetime the kids might make a few bucks.

      I do wonder though, the PPs, if we are not in one or these groups is there a reason why we get updates on them? I guess I am missing something.

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      1. No clobbering here.

        In that case, your kids will thank you, or wonder what in hell you were thinking. I hope it’s the former.

        Of course you are speaking to the updates via OWoN that we share, rather than any “WHA PP updates”, which are non-existent.

        The reason is simple. Because they go first in the process, and if a public RV is to happen, it will be after the upper tiers process, or begin to process. That’s the general idea, anyway. If anyone here is in a legitimate, sanctioned group and there are many readers here who are, then they know who to go to for information and updates, as we will not publish any confidential information concerning them. If you know of anyone in a legitimate group, inquire as to availability. We don’t administer such here, but don’t let that sway you from asking around in other places.

        That being said, it is my understanding that the topmost groups are closed. I can’t speak to lower aggregated groups and such.

        Thanks for your question and hope you are enjoying your holidays.

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        1. My kids always wonder what I’m thinking lol Thanks for the quick response. I am enjoying the holidays, hope you are too. Happy New Year. – Jeff


  8. Hello Tony wonderful days ahead I hope and peace on earth thank you and our white hats friends god bless you from an old friend .PEACE…Loyd


  9. Hi Tony-
    Wanted to wish you and everyone a very Merry Christmas/Holiday Season.

    If you want to watch a Rothschild have a serious meltdown follow him on Twitter:

    David Rothschild Verified account @DavMicRot
    Some tidbits from earlier today:

    Apparently I need to brush up on anti-Fed conspiracy theory, but gold-standard would be terrible for standard-of-living for working Americans: just add more uncertainty in market and take away American’s ability to use monetary policy to help US

    This one was in response to President Trump’s tweets about the Fed. He gets angrier and angrier as Americans point the finger at he and his family. Some have told him to breathe, some have asked him if he’s scared? I’ve cleaned it up for your site.

    Just shut the fck up. Seriously: every time President Trump talks about the Fed, the market tumbles. He needs the market to stabilize to save what is left of his presidency: is he so f*ing stupid he cannot even manage just shutting the fck up and doing nothing?

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    1. Thank you, Jeff! Yes, President Trump is a boss, and in the NY boss tradition, he is loud and will do whatever it takes to win, in his mind.

      He’s a difficult one to figure out, but I am still glad he is president, and not Hellary.

      Be safe and enjoy your holidays!

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    1. I found my mom’s birth certificate and it says “Midwest Bank Note Company” on the bottom of the certificate.

      What is going on here? Well after doing some research I found this explanation:

      Since the USA has been bankrupt for decades, having no substance such as gold and silver to back the currency, the only asset it has are men and women and our labour. We are the collateral for the interest on the loan of the World Bank. Each of us is registered, via the application for a birth certificate. The Treasury issues a bond on the birth certificate and the bond is sold at a securities exchange and bought by the FRB/BoC, which then uses it as collateral to issue bank notes. The bond is held in trust for the Feds at the Depository Trust Corporation. We are the surety on said bonds. Our labour/energy is then payable at some future date. Hence we become the ‘transmitting utility’ for the transmission of energy. The USG/CAG, in order to provide necessary goods and services, created a commercial bond (promissory note), by pledging the property, labour, life and body of its citizens, as payment for the debt (bankruptcy). This commercial bond made chattel (property) out of us all. We became nothing more than ‘human resources’ and collateral for the debt. This was without our knowledge and/or our consent, via the filing (registration) of our birth certificates. When mothers apply for a birth certificate, the application is registered. The legal title of her baby is then transferred from the mother to the State. Mom is left with equitable title of her baby whom she can use for a fee – a ‘use tax’ – and since the property does not belong to her, she has to treat it in the manner which the owner wants.


  10. Outsized returns often come from betting against conventional wisdom.

    Given a ten percent chance of a 100 times payoff, you should take that bet every time.

    -Jeff Bezos

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  11. Hi Tony. Cant sleep so was up watching some things and knowing you are a history fan I was wondering what you think about this scenario? I know we had discussed some time ago about the outcome of WW2 without a western front. Cant really say who is behind this alternative historical model but it sure looks well thought out.

    2019 is looking good for PPs and crypto. Hope the public can catch a break! Your pal, C.


    1. Mama mia! This is one of the more conservative alternative historical scenarios I have seen for a German/Soviet-only fight. It seems well thought out, right down to the tactics of the generals. The political outcomes were pretty interesting to say the least. Having Stalin wiped off the face of the earth would have saved millions, that’s for sure.

      There is no mention of Jewish issues, but I would imagine they would have faced deportation rather than mass murder. There is no way Germany would have been able to operate that kind of killing and remain open to western trade and diplomatic relations, which was crucial to the model presented. The involved SS units would have been more valuable on the front than operating camps that would risk world backlash. So, more lives saved overall.

      No D-Day means 256,000 US troops not killed by wars end in Europe. Big plus there. British Empire left intact, and her resultant colonial holdings most likely enjoying a far better standard of living than was the case in reality. The nuclear checkmate meant no cold war, no Korea, no Vietnam. Japan spared from nuclear attacks. All pluses for humanity.

      Alas it was all a dream.

      Indeed the PP issues seem to be gathering traction, banker greed and deep claws notwithstanding. 2019 should be a good year for cryptos. Those with good development teams and use cases will do very well. Wall St will ensure easy access by institutional clientèle. I don’t see how it could end badly overall, with such a congeries of financial vim and vigor licking its chops.

      The public RV issue is sucking egg nog. We await further word on this. Perhaps some confirmed PPs will help the issue along.

      Thanks for sharing. Happy holidays!


  12. OWoN:

    Q: Anyone know if Wanta funds were released? Received email from one today that said Wanta was using funds to build wall. Reply Replies

    A: Wants funds were.not released. Not! We are Trustees to the Paymaster. Keeping Leo’s lips buttoned is not easy. Ignore anything until it’s released here.

    Read more at:
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  13. OWoN:

    Q: Anything new on this trail? …. “If PPs are to release pre Xmas it could be Wednesday or Thursday. NOT WILL but COULD . This is NOT for the Currencies it’s ONLY for the Sovereigns and PPs if authorized. We wait. Can they do one good thing right?” …. Merry Christmas To All

    A: It’s under huge pressure but same old. My guess is mid Jan earliest now they will overnight them every day.

    Read more at:
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    1. You’re right A Johnson, she is a gorgeous young woman. Her reaction was definitely priceless too. Thanks for the share A J, I enjoyed it.


  14. This is a motivational video like no other. He’s crude and brash but I personally like his no nonsense style.
    That’s why I like John – not that John is crude and brash but he has a no nonsense style, which I appreciate.

    If you think it’s too much to post on your site, I understand. He uses foul language. Could you imagine if this guy was your dad or grandfather?

    Dan Peña’s Greatest Hits – Success Motivation Compilation – The 50 Billion Dollar Man

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    1. Hold them, indeed.

      The slaughter pen still has a ways to go, but the strong will continue the buy up the byproducts in the form of cheaper prices. They will cache them, and then get ready to make fat fees selling them to their clients once Wall St agrees on custody and regulatory framework. And that is only a matter of time, with there being almost no chance that they will decide to ignore the entire new investment class. Wall St miss out on commission bonanza? Ha.

      Now, the specter of no public exchanges beforehand is very troubling. The hoped for sequence is fast fading. Perhaps 1Q 2019 will synchronize up a bit in favor of an RV first, crypto rise second situation. I don’t know. More and more, people are starting to see the writing on the wall, and that any fruits of the GCR may come from top down distributions from sovereign ledgers into public work/infrastructure projects rather than currency speculation via the banks.

      Whatever it may be, I guess we should be glad either situation comes and plays out, rather than nothing. But, to the bold speculator, who prudently places disposable funds in smart choices, the chance of a parallel “RV” is very real, and I would suggest those who are so inclined and capable, to consider such a path.

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        1. I am talking about all of it.

          The dong is the best of the lot, but the question is, when? If the best of the lot is going to be delayed into 2019, then what does that say about the dinar?

          We know the ZIM is dead. So far, anyway.

          Private groups have not started yet. No firm assurance they will in 2018. We wait for that.

          But, public? No sign of it this year. No estimates for next so far. How many more are going to sit through 2019 when so much else is beckoning?

          Stay ready, yes. But, the falcon has heard the falconer.

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