Crypto, Through The Tulips, RV



It’s time to move to a fresh thread. Barring any new updates or releases from the official White Hat blog, this thread will remain until the end of the year. All previous threads are still available for reading by accessing the archives.

By now it is no surprise that a rather quiet posture has set in from our sources. Between reports of Elders sojourning in London, and being told that RV specifics are not possible, one can only surmise that the progress is of a forward nature. In the past, progress of a backwards nature was always quick to be released and outlined in no uncertain terms. Despite many weeks passing since the silence has started, no “slipping” has been reported so far. I will leave it to you to determine just what “silence” can possibly mean at this time.

We never started out to be a crypto blog, but many of you are taking more of an interest in this new space and the desire to obtain transformational gains is certainly understood. Given the ongoing RV delays and uncertainty about the final numbers, the needs are certainly understandable. I have done what I could to impart simple rules to keep you safe while positioning yourself for possible future gains. Many have shared their experiences with me, and I am happy to report that almost all of those who have, did great jobs in being disciplined, safe and prudent in their approach.

As I mentioned previously in the last thread, my main anxiety now is that of timing. While an RV is not needed for one to experience a potential windfall from expected crypto value increases, it certainly would be optimum if additional capital could be safely committed before institutional funds are unleashed into the crypto world. We can only hope that fair winds, and the silence from the top, will augur well for events to happen sooner rather than later.

For now, “news risk”  will be impacting on crypto prices due to relative thin liquidity and the naivety and unsophisticated nature of most who hold BTC at this time. Don’t let such shake you loose. In advance of what we know is on the horizon, it is at this time that you must hold on. All manner of jabberwoky will be hurled at you in an effort to make you give up. You should easily repel such urges by safe position sizes. If you find yourself chewing your knuckles when prices go against you, then you probably put in too much in relation to your bankroll, and are now going to doubt yourself. When doubt creeps in, wealth creeps out.

When it comes to speculation of this kind, I have seen people driven to hysterical frenzies resembling rapid-fire schizophrenia intermixed with near uncontrollable urges to crap into their hands and rub it in their hair, just because they heard one financial analyst say one thing, then another one says something different. They don’t know how to maintain a stable position. As a result, they buy and sell themselves into a vat of buttermilk as they chase one opinion after another. Such is the price to pay for letting “news” run your decision. We have seen major institutions bash BTC mercilessly with one hand, and then turn around with the other hand and buy it. Major players like Soros have also been caught doing this. Your antidote against such slimeballs is just to take your position and hold. Otherwise, you are just placing your ship into the hands of a gorilla with ADD.

Binance made more money than Deutsche Bank last year. But no, that’s conveniently ignored because, after all, crypto is a scam. They say BTC is doomed because the electricity used to validate the transactions will exceed that used by Japan in a year. But they forget to tell you that current banking infrastructure already uses 3 times the annual electrical usage of Japan. Godzilla is a bigger threat than crypto is. This is the kind of rhetoric you will encounter in a concerted effort to give up. If you do, someone will come along and buy what you sell – most likely the same interests who convinced you to give up.

If there is truly any value in what you are holding, then time will prove it. Not the opinions of others. There is only one way to find out. Commit to a course of action and don’t vary from it.

The monopoly of money creation and transmission is being challenged by distributed ledger technology. True, the powers that be are also interested, but they will have to share that plateau now, and not be able to exclusively dominate the wire systems where they could take as they saw fit without the ability for others to see it so clearly. Multiple well financed and quality DLT platforms are now coming on line, some completely impenetrable, offering commoners to operate as if a fully equipped bank with the ability to transfer value from point to point, in privacy. This ability, and not straw man, sovereign citizen, UCC, or other regressive legal blather issued by cloistered, self-anointed saviors with cult status at best, will force the changes that so many want to see. The ability to compete equally based on a great technological equalizer will be the key, in my opinion. This will create a whole new angle and fresh plan of attack that few saw coming.

WHA has pretty much accomplished what I wanted with it – introducing people who had an interest in the RV to the right sources for accurate information, and to expose RV/GCR parvenus for what they largely were – overnight shape-shifting opportunists who found a warm pliant market for their income spiel du jour.

From now until the end of 2018 we will patiently await events to run their natural course, and will do what we can to convey news and information as needed. In January we will reassess the lay of the land. If paper exits have occurred by then, closing this particular effort will most likely be the wisest course of action.

It has been a wild ride. So, let’s prepare for all possible outcomes. Thank you for your readership and your participation. I sincerely hope 2018 will see some long awaited releases finally accomplished. Those who have devoted time and effort in advance of such, certainly deserve it.


There is one kind of robber whom the law does not strike at, and who steals what is most precious to men: time. – Napoleon Bonaparte


  1. “…In the past eight months, the valuation of the crypto market has declined by more than 76 percent, from $900 billion to $215 billion. Yet, crypto hedge funds have raised more money than ever before…”

    You mean to tell me that hedge funds are planning on buying low? What a concept -WHA


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  3. Hi Tony, would like to post a video I made recently from a blockchain meetup here in town and would suggest anyone to seek one out in their area. It was a very chill atmosphere among like minded individuals.

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    1. It was absolutely awesome to hear your voice Tony. ;-)))))) Such a wonderful message as well. Loved all the funny comments at the end. Your sense of humor is brilliant, you always crack me up.

      The view from your back deck is beautiful, so relaxing. You must sleep well being that close to the water. Does hearing the sound of water at night when you retire make you dream? When the ducks are quiet that is lol.

      Thanks again for creating and sharing your wonderful video Tony and for offering your continued guidance and support. You are very much appreciated.

      Enjoy a fabulous weekend.

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      1. Thank you. I know this subject is at times very dry, so I try to keep it interesting.

        I really don’t hear the water unless the wind is up and it sloshes against the shore. Otherwise it just makes me want to pee.

        The ducks are my buddies. They are the best pets. You just feed them once in a while, and when I am traveling and not able to, they go off and feed themselves.

        Glad you liked the video!

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    2. Loved the video — from the piano jazz intro clear through to the credits!! Thanks so much, Tony, for keeping us focused and patient through this ordeal. You are the rare honest voice that we all need and appreciate so much. I hope we are finally close to the RV curtain call, and I also hope that, afterward, you will continue this blog in some fashion — crypto conversation and whatever else is worthwhile!!

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      1. I appreciate that, thank you. Just doing my share so I can look back and know I helped a bit for anything that comes my way. I don’t like the idea of “something for nothing”. Not saying that anyone who does not do as I did is in that category. Just a particular point of integrity for myself.

        I know many will step up their game in the future. There are some very good people here.

        As for the future, well, I am thinking it through and a lot will depend on how things shake out, and if I am asked, etc. We will see!

        Thanks again.


    1. Hard to believe Weiss would rate bitcoin so highly when not too long before they were giving bitcoin a rating.of C-

      I like to follow Weiss but I am puzzled now.


      1. Be careful not to let present time analysis lead you to believe things are static. This new space is going to be moving and innovating faster than any other new creative endeavor ever did before.

        Wall Street killed off cryptos, and BTC, 30 or so times before with their articles. Now, most reputable journalists proclaim it is here to stay.

        All you can do is take a stake, and hold on for the tsunami of capital that is soon coming into this sector. Hold value. Hold good management. Hold the best ideas.


        1. Take a look at this NASDAQ chart. Prior to the year 2000, we see it reaching then all time highs before a significant sell off, crashing down below 2000, from a high of about 7000, about a 70% fall. The market struggled to regain lost ground, but the real estate debacle of 2008 had other plans. From this double bottomed crash arose a new high. Those that held on were rewarded as the tech sector went on to new innovations which drove investment capital into the market like never before.

          The current BTC chart shows similarities, but on a more compressed time line for various reasons.

          We stand at the threshold of an influx of capital into this new market, with greater speed and with custodial oversight. The NASDAQ back then had nowhere near the capital exposure that crypto markets will soon have in this day and age. Things happen much faster now, and with the addition of Wall Street brokerages enabling BTC ETFs, it will be so easy for otherwise tech-shy capital to enter the fray, with insured underpinnings against brokerage losses from other than market forces.

          Those of you who missed the first boom, don’t fret. If you are game for another chance, it’s here.

          All we need now is for all of you to exit your paper before what I think is coming, comes.


  4. Teeka Tiwari has compared the crypto market with the early days of the tech boom, but when he made that original analysis he did not figure on the many many immature investors in the crypto market compared to the majority of the kind of people who were in the tech boom market.

    Now Teeka recognizes the make up of the vast majority of investors in this market especially because of the recent carnage in the market.

    So I am kind of concerned about the future of this market because of the vast amount of scared and immature young people that make up this market. Am I being too concerned?

    Invest no more than you can afford to lose is one answer, but I am hoping for more?

    Looks like I am thrown back on the GCR to be a rescue agent for the carnage of the crypto market. LOL….



    1. Are you being too concerned?

      In my opinion, probably.

      Keep in mind that there are trillions of smart dollars lining up. Custody is not being implemented to attend to the needs of an immature market.

      Whatever you decide, good luck!


      1. Custody needs will allow a more mature investor to enter the market. We have the immature players to thank for the bargains available. Without them, we would not have the present bargains.

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  5. OWoN:

    Q: Hello. I have been out of the loop for a couple of months now. I would like to know if anyone would so kindly update me on the GCR/RV, and if the VND is still a winner.Also, what is the REAL deal with Trump?? Thank you in advance. Peace and Blessings to you all

    The fastest way not to get settled right now is to talk about it. Certain Asian parties talked prior to redeeming large T Bill blocks and soon found the consequences. [It’s that close] now so when real things do clear, only afterwards, will we advise anything.

    Read more at:
    OWoN © All Rights Reserved

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    1. Was I banned? This blog seemed to get upset when I questioned the existence of the Elders and whether both they and London were merely one of many factions attempting to “pull off an RV” to usher in their “new solution” which is “what’s best for you” – i.e. meet the new boss same as the old boss……


  6. Fund Manager: Gold & Silver Being Hit Like In 2008 To Cover-Up Impending Global Financial Crisis
    August 15, 2018

    The bottom line is that the price of gold and silver are being systematically taken down in price as a mechanism to help cover up the fact that a large-scale financial crisis is going to hit the global financial system. I don’t know the timing, but I would suggest that the EM currency melt-down that began in South America and has spread to the eastern hemisphere represents a series of earthquakes that are generating a “tsunami.”

    While I’m loathe to forecast a price-bottom for gold and the timing of the forthcoming systemic crisis, I would suggest that anyone who is shaken out of their gold, silver and mining stocks right now will regret selling when looking back a year from now.’


  7. Xchange of America is pleased to announce that you CAN NOW exchange IQD / VND / IDR for cash.

    The XOA Team is quite thrilled and confident this new policy will make our customers (and future customers) quite happy. You can now sell your IQD, VND, and IDR at any XOA store location and then walk away with USD…Yes, United States Dollars (in hand). This new policy is effective immediately at all Xchange of America locations across the United States.

    We thank you for your continued trust in XOA as we strive to make our brand better, and provide the highest level of customer service possible.

    Best regards,

    Robert M. Hoffman, Jr
    Chairman / CEO


    1. So before this announcement, if you sold your vnd or iqd to them, they did not give you cash?? How did they do it before? So they use to give you a check.

      What is the significance of this? I don’t understand.


        1. Given the rag tag overprinting of the dinar, and the almost constant warnings that exchanges are going to be finite, I think the dong, being an already internationally traded and recognized currency, is probably the smarter play.

          I am not saying the dinar won’t yield something to some degree. After all, it has to be brought up to some value, or what’s the point of the RV? But it’s a risk as to how much, and how much time there will be to acquire value from it given the probable limited window of time, and limits of money available.

          “Dongs should be good” has been a matra from the top for a while.

          I hope it works out for the best for all, to whatever extent possible and allowable in the real world of finance.


    1. Circumscribed. You always keep me entertained.
      thank you for all you do. If
      WHA does go away, I hope you know from me how much you are appreciated. Thank you Tony.


      1. That was very kind, thank you.

        WHA may have to change its mission, post RV, since the main aspect of our job will have been completed. Our name may change, and based as what we may be asked to do to assist by our White Hat friends, so may our approach. But, we may be here in some fashion or another post RV.

        Now, as to me entertaining you… 🙂


        1. So the journey could continue here post rv. I was hoping that would be the case.

          It would be an honor to be part of a worthy cause here. Too many untrustworthy people out there in my opinion.

          Thank you Tony!

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    1. And the market snoozes…

      It’s quite clear that the impact of such and the potential is being overshadowed by the shock of 75% drops, and only the strong money, which loves a bargain, can take its time, pace itself, and strike when it has all the protections, avenues and insurance it needs to catch the lion’s share of what’s coming.

      Those who play it cool and do what Romans do in Rome, may see transformational wealth that common men rarely see.

      Good of you to keep up on this.

      Now, if we can only see a public exit of paper before year’s end. What a one-two punch for the hoi polloi.


  8. For Brave Mature Audiences Only.

    I have read for several years bits of information on the supposed Illuminati which may or may not be a Satanic Cult. but when I read what is on the Shift Frequency site it was far more chilling than what I had already read. This is an ugly enough version to scare the crap out of me. The link below is to a condensed version “Svali- Illuminati Defector Details Pervasive Conspiracy” The internet page has a link to an 18 segment detailed version which I will not read.

    I ask all if they have any evidence that the Illuminati exists and is as pervasive as this “defector” asserts. My only thought is perhaps this is what White Hat insiders meant when they said to leave the Cabal to them as it is too powerful to fight for most people.

    Now it is getting late and time for me to listen to Joe Bannister, Agent for Truth about the fraud of the IRS.

    Here is the link to the Illuminati outline



    1. Paul said: “Now it is getting late and time for me to listen to Joe Bannister, Agent for Truth about the fraud of the IRS:

      Here is some interesting stuff to read for enlightenment

      Title of this article was given as > 10 Points To Club The IRS With

      Some years ago tax attorney par excellence, Lowell (Larry) Becraft, from Huntsville, Alabama earned the distinction of being the IRS BUSTER. Larry won landmark cases in Tennessee wherein 18 citizens accused of “willful failure to file” their tax returns were acquitted.

      Below is an example of one of the cases:

      On October 15, 1993 a Chattanooga jury exonerated Lloyd R. Long of the same charge. The IRS said that Long had made more than $49,000 in 1989 and 1990 and that he did not file a return. Becraft and Long agreed, but went on to prove that he was NOT REQUIRED BY LAW TO FILE ! The case, US v. Lloyd R. Long, #CR-1-93-91, was won on 10 points of law.


      1. BRUSHABER V. UNION PACIFIC RAILROAD: Unanimous decision of the U.S. Supreme Court that the 16th Amendment did not give Congress any new power to tax any new subjects; it also showed that the INCOME TAX IS IN FACT AN EXCISE TAX ON CORPORATE PRIVILEGES AND PRIVILEGED OCCUPATIONS.

      2. FLINT V. STONE TRACY: Excise Tax is a tax laid upon the manufacture, sale, and consumption of commodities and upon licenses to pursue certain occupations; and upon corporate privileges (DO YOU SEE WHY “INCORPORATION” IS STRESSED).

      3. SIMMS V. AREHNS: Income Tax was neither a property tax nor a tax upon occupations of common right, but was an EXCISE TAX. ( Congressional Research Service studies confirm the income tax is an excise).

      4. REDFIELD V. FISHER: The individual, unlike the corporation, cannot be taxed for the mere privilege of existing. THE INDIVIDUAL’S RIGHT TO LIVE AND OWN PROPERTY IS A NATURAL RIGHT UPON WHICH AN EXCISE CANNOT BE IMPOSED.

      5. JACK COLE V. COMMISSIONER: Citizens are entitled by right to income or earnings and that right can not be taxed as a privilege.

      6. CORN V. FORT: Individuals have the right to combine their activities as partnerships.



      9. Statement from the Alcohol and Tobacco Tax Division of the IRS which shows the income tax is 100% voluntary, as opposed to the Alcohol Tax which is 100% mandatory.

      10. An IRS agent, Ms. Jeu, stated that a secret code known only to the IRS, and encoded on Mr. Long’s permanent record, showed that the IRS knew he was not required to file a return.


      Bill Benson traveled the country and tried to find out if the income tax amendment was properly ratified or not. This letter from a lawyer pretty well sums up his findings.

      Law Offices

      77 West Washington Street
      Suite 707
      Chicago, Illinois 60602

      Feb 19, 1985
      William J. Benson
      1128 East 160th Place
      South Holland, Illinois 60473


      Dear Bill:

      I have reviewed the documents which you have obtained on the
      “ratification” of the Sixteenth Amendment. I put “ratification” in
      quotation marks because it is apparent, from those documents,
      that the 16th Amendment was never properly ratified and therefore
      has never been a part of our Constitution.

      The documents you have obtained establish that a fraud of massive
      porportions was perpetrated on the people of this country in 1913 by
      Secretary of State Philander C. Knox and his staff. The documents
      establish that Knox and the Solicitor – his lawyer – knew the states
      had not ratified the Amendment as proposed by Congress.

      The fraud arises when they certified that the Amendment had been
      ratified, instead of sending it back to each state for proper ratification.
      The “presumption” indulged in by the Solicitor in his report is simply
      preposterous in view of the documentation sent to him from the
      various states.

      The absence of the Sixteenth Amendment means that the federal
      government can only collect an income tax within the guidelines set
      forth by the Supreme Court in Pollock v Farmers’ Loan and Trust Co.,
      157 U.S. 429 (1895).

      Its absence also means that the sections of the Internal Revenue
      Code relating to income tax are null and void, since they are based
      upon the Sixteenth Amendment.

      The enormity of the problem this situation presents to the federal
      government is obvious. The courts will have difficulty accepting
      these facts and throwing out the income tax as we know it. The
      courts, which are supposed to be the staunch guardians of our
      Constitutional rights vis-avis the government, will be hard-pressed
      to live up to that role.

      This is especially true in the event that individual judges and
      prosecutors persist in enforcing a law that never really was a law,
      but which has been assumed to be a law for over seventy years.
      To the extent such individuals persist, they may well become
      co-conspirators in the fraud which was perpetrated on the
      American people in 1913.

      I hope this answers your query and that the truth will set us all
      free. You deserve a lot of credit for the task you have undertaken.
      I want to thank you for being so dedicated to liberty.

      Sincerely, Andrew B. Spiegel


      1. Yes, thanks Andrew,
        I am aware of Becraft and Benson. and the incredible work they have done. I’ve been following Joe Banister for a few years now and he has gone to an internet discussion show. The one I mentioned had Becraft on but I missed part of the show. Everyone should be aware of the fraud of the IRS and their application of their rules on “income”. From my own research the majority of the Laws or particularly Statutes, Regulations and Codes that involve private behavior of people are fraudulently applied. Most lawyers, judges, legislators, police and government office holders are ignorant. of this as the Law Schools do not teach the foundation of Law in the United States, the American Constitution. It is intentional and a bad joke on all of us.

        A warning from Joe Banister who did challenge and.beat the IRS in a battle royal that bankrupted him and ruined his marriage. Banister warns it is best not to do something that will bring down the wrath of that well financed agency. You have no idea what a terrible experience it is when you challenge a pseudo-government agency. From my own successful challenge of a much less powerful group locally it is no fun especially if you “thought” you would easily succeed.


        1. Wise words.

          All who prevailed in court by convincing a jury that they did not willfully evade taxes, wound up losing in civil court, and had all that money they thought they saved, taken from them. Remember the Fed Ex pilot who won in criminal court, but then went on to have it all taken from her paycheck in civil IRS actions?

          It’s not worth fighting against. The price to pay is far more than the tax ever will be.


    1. Steer clear of crypto Jacobins who lay the criticism on so thick in the beginning of a technological advance.

      We are still early in the development of these new technologies and what one may criticize one day, is advanced again the next, rendering the critic a big bundle of mootness.

      How many times did we see top rated firms in the 90’s scoff at the idea that a personal computer would be powerful enough for anyone to do anything other than program it to make a few funny noises or have graphic capability for nothing more than playing tic-tac-toe? How many avoided tech stocks in the 90’s, and today are still being reminded of it every time they look at their smartphone?

      You will never know the real motivation behind the comment of others, even those well qualified credential-wise, to issue such articles.

      As to your question, “what tokens should we steer clear of..” My answer would be, any that are not well funded, well managed and well established within their niche with serious collaboration in play. If you avoid ALL smart contract enabled tokens, even the good ones, you may kick yourself when one of them goes on to be a 400x bagger for yet undetermined reasons that the Jacobins didn’t see coming when they were blogging for dollars on behalf of…?

      Most of the ICOs out there are scams. Many of the tokens out there are bad ideas. Even some of the best may not make it.

      That’s why you must apportion your capital evenly, and across a broad base. You will not avoid bad plays. They will happen.

      We are so very early in the technology. If bloggers existed back when Apple was starting, think of the reasons they would have listed to avoid having an Apple computer. Slow, expensive, energy hog, limited applications, cumbersome, impractical, geeky looking, etc. etc.

      A few years from now, what do you think will become of smart contract technology? The same? No forward advance?

      I doubt it. We can only imagine. My personal opinion is just take a position in well funded, well run tokens that have smart names behind them. Those people are not stupid, and are not going to pursue ideas that are so obviously lacking in potential from the git-go.

      That’s how I see it. Whatever you do, good luck!


  9. Tony, thank you for your latest update. I can understand your reasons for seeing a time of transition ahead. I agree also that once the RV is done then WHA will have fulfilled the mission statement. Once it is done then a new mission will be certainly understood. Just what that will be I know you will work out in good time.

    I am living proof that what you started here was important. I was a ZAP follower and sent him money all the time. I must have been out of my head. I saw the light here and your pointing the way to those who are actually working the front lines was what I needed to get my mind right. You are right that in order for us to be effective we need economic stability. It is not about getting rich and loafing after. It is about becoming a stronger point of influence and having more ability to work more deeply in our area of control.

    So many gurus are talking about “projects”. So many people out there never have run anything more sophisticated than a lemonade stand are going to be given funds to run companies? I don’t think that makes much sense. They are being sold things that don’t add up I think.

    The latest from J shows frustration. I don’t know who the “gimmie gimmie” people are but I never see such here. I guess he is referring to the guru bloggers who are always mouthing off about the RV. I dont follow those blogs anymore so I am just guessing.

    Your care and concern that we exit our paper before the crypto boom ahead is indicative of your nature. It is so fresh to see someone advocate for our benefit when asking nothing in return or seeking a piece of it in the process. Every other RV guru out there is playing the field for a piece of some action. Blog revenue, seminar tickets, donations for mystery staff who are all basket cases and so on. Not here. As you stated, you wanted to just point the way for others to get proper information on the Rv. You have and kept your word to not stick it to us financially. Don’t forget that. If you close WHA you will do so with honor and a job well done.

    it is only logical that once the RV happens that a new priority other than watching for the RV/GCR has to be set. There will be no RV to wait for, so this current blog as you pointed out will be without a new assignemnt so to speak.

    Whatever you chose to do or not do I want you to know that this blog did serve a good purpose and was important to me and many others. You want us to exit paper and then prosper with crypto increases, at least those who have them. What a bold plan! Inspiring and noble an effort will help so many. I sincerely hope it works out that way. if is does, then many here will grow and be of much better assistance to their fellow man.

    Tony with your help I have positioned risk capital for what I think will be 200x gain within a year. Once that happens I am going to step up my game and work with the Venus Project and help them enable a better way of living for future generations. At my age it is no longer about me. It is about future beings and the world they will inherit.

    good luck Tony and thank you for all the time you have devoted to helping point the way to the real world causes and operations behind the RV/GCR. Good roads always. your friend C.

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    1. Thank you Concord. You wrote quite a lot and I am glad that the therapy on your hands has obviously worked well! I know your hands have been very troublesome as of late.

      Our friend in London was not referring to anyone here. He was simply referring to the general Dinar RV audience that is found on guru blogs, ever dreaming of millions and millions of liquid cash coming from their dinar. We don’t engage in that kind of thing here of course. We know the real outcomes will most likely be pruned down to what the realities of finance will allow.

      Yes, I want very much for the timing of it to be prior to expected crypto value increases. Since the RV is reported to be inevitable, it would be optimum for it to happen sooner than later. The impact and benefit to those of you who prudently speculate, could be significant. So much the better for you to wield more influence in your life, and positively so. Otherwise, why be here?

      I agree that a 200x increase in some cryptos is likely. Some even higher. The entire technology of it, the efficiency it brings, the secure basis of transactions and immutability for contractual transactions to occur without failure of human action to perform as intended, are going to transform our commercial interactions like nothing before. It’s as if Steven Jobs is our neighbor, and you just walked into his garage and asked him what that funny little box with all the wires is, and he offers you stock shares. You would be tempted to look around at the dirty workshop, the smelly hippies working on the parts, the lack of any structure, office, staff, etc., and think, “Yea, right”, and walk out and go back to the game on TV.

      Many will make that mistake. Many already have.

      Wow…the Venus Project. That is so good of you! They really need good people. They know the way of the future is going to include ridding the world of money, banking and politics, and have a viable plan for getting us to that place. Probably not in our lifetime, but eventually it will be so.

      Thanks again and I have to stop now as I have company. Be safe, thank you so much for your support and congratulations on your newfound way of living. A truer Renaissance man at WHA there never was, than you.

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    2. My god Concord, your comment here was just so amazing to read. It was like a massive burst of the most gorgeous rays of sunlight to my day. Thank you so much for sharing with us all here as you do.

      WOW! You totally blow me away with your positivity and enthusiasm these days Concord. I love it. Onward and upward Bro. ;-))))))))))

      And two kisses XX just for you for making my day truly sparkle.

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    3. “Tony with your help I have positioned risk capital for what I think will be 200x gain within a year.”

      I would be interested in knowing the cryptos you picked for your portfolio if you care to share them.



      1. Andrew thank you. I understand and I was going to list them, but i have changed my mind because with all the volatility I would rather not take on the burden of making personal recommendations. I am sorry but I dont feel right about it.

        Just know that the market as it is now in present is not mature or in line with anything that looks reasonable. Despite all the good news and the money lining up to come in the prices are down. In my view this is because the greater market participants at this time are not able to grasp what lies in front of them and are thinking short term quick bucks. Just do as Tony says. Buy value, and hold it. Risk capital only. Top management, top collaborations, well funded. That is about only 30 or so coins at present. the rest are crap.

        Once the custody solutions are in place,very soon, and ETF is out the ball will open. And millions will be made from hundreds. I can feel it in my bones and aching hands. Have to stop. good luck and sorry. C


        1. Hi Concord,
          I know it looks like I am stalking you lol but you just keep blowing me away with the personal transformation I am witnessing in you. You have come so far in such a short time. I am so impressed and so absolutely delighted by this.

          Look at your comment here. These are the words of someone who knows what they are doing and who is comfortable and confident sharing an opinion on this topic It’s absolutely magnificent. Thank you so much.



        2. Concord:

          I respect your decision not to share the picks you have chosen. I was not going to follow them as recommendations but only see how many I already have. But others may follow them and get blown away short term by a continued down trend in the market brought about by CRYPTO BABIES. It is because of all the blog and YouTube influenced crypto babies selling who do not have the knowledge that we have to bolster our resolve to hodl. They are running scared and need to grow up into investing adults.


  10. OWoN:

    While the Drongos and Gimme, Gimme, Gimmes were sleeping on Sunday, I held 2 discussions with a major US PP Patriot also awaiting releases. He, like me, is not sitting there whining where is my money, “I am owed”! He actually IS! But, like me, he and others work daily, relentlessly towards releases. Real work and real efforts. His work, and ours, has been decades. We deal with it. Daily. Hourly! We know what to carry. We have no time, just intent.

    He, and ourselves do not have a few hundred, or thousand Bucks tied up in Jungle Bunny paper. He has Billions. As now do we. Real debts. Amounts are private, but real.

    The point being, when he also gets redemption, as also us, the intent is to amass safe Global Deposits, free from DC Hegemony, and to cross invest vast Capital in infrastructure projects, Real Estate, and long term project investments. Jobs and security reshaping nations.

    Instead we hear from some weekly, Oh, Woe Is Me, I’m not paid, it’s all a waste of time, I’m done.

    Then- go!

    No one cares. No one needs weak and feeble minds or limp Losers. They matter nothing.

    Be clear, a real battle in being fought, with commitment and determination, knowing this is for the future of the Western species, for the century. We have an overstocked, unplanned, under producing herd.

    Value will be those able to contribute as team players towards project developments, and product distribution in all selected countries.

    You are lucky. You have minds, and a site. You have purpose, and hope.

    There are only 2 ways to deal with the vast transient masses of illegals. Either to feed and educate them in home nations to stop the flow, or the battles to come when the lashback starts in invaded nations. 1936 is the risk again.

    The likes of Bannon and the re arising UKIP, plus other EU Right Wing Groups, are creating a whole new angry Right Wing EU Order, under conditions similar to Hitler pre WW11, victims will be targeted. With no remorse! No one believed last time. Laconic asses sat on them. Until their Butts were in rail wagons. Be in no doubt, it will be ethnic. Nationalism will grow under such conditions. Look at Ukraine! Even in the US also. Who will stop the tides?

    We are batting every Zio and Deep State Skank, every gut rotten duplicitous Banker, every Cabal Cling On!!!, across many nations. Corruption is rife, but stupidity more so. It’s Global.

    We are talking about new structures with only Non Zionist Central Banks, each for YOU, the people.

    Europe is being trashed under the sheer surge of African and Islamist hoards. The unplanned consequences of US Cabal wars. Entire nations are going under. The guns will come out. We now risk ethnic cleansing not seen since the 1930s. Macron in France is clinging to power drowning with Muslims and Africans. France is under siege. As is Merkel. Also May. Brussels is apathetic. A Vatican Stool Pigeon, all Jesuits. Ugly currents are building. If the tide turns, like the Tiber, what will it carry?

    With the fall of Rome, the Tiber carried the corpses. So will the Seine, the Rhine and the oceans. The surge will be stopped, with Force. If Merkel and Macron fall, what new angry Forces will emerge? Armies will yield to them and co enjoin. From such, Hitlers emerge. But next time, organized. The little Housepainter Corporal killed 50M plus. Next time may be far worse. They won’t just cleanse Europe, they will go after the source. Better organized, better equipped and better resourced.

    What of “Me” some wail?
    I look, I see, and I ask, what of us, as a Species? The Blind do not see the Vandals coming. Havoc unleashed? The cost of avaricious US wars for failed Empire gains. The human tides come or way. Locust packs. There will be blood.

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    1. And soon, you will be able to buy it through your Fidelity account, or similar, through an ETF. Consider the amazing relief when you can buy it without having to tell your spouse that you “just bought Bitcoin”. You can say, “Just bought some great shares in an ETF”. No more loss of consortium when the price goes down 30% and she wont let you back in the honey pot until the rise of 500%, just like the old days.

      From then on it will be more honey than Winnie The Poo could eat out of whatever he liked to eat out of in his neck of the woods.

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    HIW mentioned this in the earlier thread. It’s now law.

    It is our understanding that a public ZIM RV is not going to happen. So, whatever the significance this law has on the GCR, we will have to watch and wait and see. But, the signing of this act, which is an amendment to an earlier one signed in 2001, is interesting to say the least!


    1. What is Trump doing signing this when the U.S. has enough troubles to occupy his time? Trump is not president of Zimbabwe. How can he have authority over what happens there?


  12. A contact of mine came across an in depth analysis by a researcher and trader called Sylvain Ribes on how he believes $3 billion worth of cryptocurrency trade volumes are fabricated. The main culprits are Okex exchange with 93% non-existence volume. Next is Huobi exchange with 82% non-existence volume. He has similar suspicion about HitBTC and Binance.

    View at

    This maybe the reason some Chinese can see a big plunge of bitcoin to $2k in the near future is because of fraud occurring at Okex exchange etc.?


    1. I would get on my knees and kiss the reeking buns of Hillary Clinton if BTC would go down to $2k, especially if we get out of paper and with BTC ETF’s sure to be approved very soon.

      I doubt very highly that the deficits are as the author claims. How can Binance book more earnings than Deutsche Bank on inflated trade? Are the accountants in on it too?


  13. I don’t have to the words to tell you how much this site means to me. I have learned so much and you helped to stay grounded with your calming words and common sense.

    A big heartfelt thank you to you! ❤️🤗

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    1. Thank you, that was very nice.

      Of all things I am most thankful that you have learned here. You don’t know how much that statement means to me. Never in my wildest imagination did I think we would be here this long. So, I am glad in the meantime a learning environment was created outside the bounds of our subject matter.

      A very big heartfelt you’re welcome back!

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    1. I thank you for that. Common sense…if only my dad could read that now. He would shake his head at any notion that I had such, so I am glad you feel that this blog does.

      Dad was a good man, but very practical down to a fault, and thought I was most impractical. He had a hard life, and died a wealthy man. I have had a relatively easy life, earned, but am nowhere near the man he was. I never had to fight a war, live through a depression, see a wife die with a child to care for on my own, get laid off from a job after 20 years of service and be rewarded with an 18$ a month pension for it, overcome PTSD, or many other things he overcame that I never had to.

      For this I used to sit at his grave and feel totally ashamed at how much I never understood his hardships. I never took the time in my youth to appreciate his life. It was only until I started to ask more about his experiences in war, in growing up in dirt poor Texas farm country, in reliving what he did, that it started to sink in.

      Your comment makes me feel that perhaps while I never had any common sense in my father’s eyes, that at least I did a little bit to foster such here in this tiny, insignificant spot of cyberspace.

      This has been a week of getting my head handed to me, from all corners. Nothing I can say, or do, seems to be to anyone’s satisfaction. Poor me. My Waterloo, and as bad as things get for me these days. But when I think that tomorrow I will wake up in a paid for house, eat well, earn a good living, not have to worry about mortar shells exploding near and watching men torn to pieces, or have to pick the shattered brain, skin and bones of friends out of my eyes, nostrils and ears, I check myself when I start to feel self pity.

      Am I a good man? Not sure many would agree with that. But, I don’t care, and never will, because my contributions in my entire life will never equal my father’s contributions to my life, to my country, and generally to the notion of the art of living despite many reasons to wish one never had been born.

      I know a lot of people who have sacrificed much for what many here expect to receive. I hope we never lose sight of it. Someone once said that the world is run on the backs of a few desperate men. I sincerely believe that. There is a lot of bad in the world, whatever the reason. But, there is much good, and fortunately for us, it only takes a few good men to overcome many bad ones, or those who are indifferent or don’t fully appreciate the sacrifices of those who have gone before to secure the present relative ease and peace we live in.

      Good luck to all of you for 2018.

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      1. Heavens Tony, I wish I could give you a big hug right now. You seem so sad and vulnerable expressing these words.

        There is so much I would like to say to you about what you have shared here but no matter how hard I try I cannot put into words that which I would like to express to you. Maybe that’s a sign I should shut up lol.

        And yes, you are a good man whether you believe it or not.

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        1. Thank you…not really feeling sad or vulnerable. Just humbled.

          Took a call from a friend at 4:30am my time. She’s a single mom with 2 kids, working graveyard to support her and the girls and give them a good future.

          And here I am, sitting on my deck, watching ducks eat, the sun coming up – no commute, no significant stress, no kids to worry about.

          She’s on my list for humanitarian relief post RV. I can’t abide the idea that I would not share the resources needed to lend a terrific woman like that a helping hand. I know it wont go up her nose, in her veins, through her liver, into a trans-gender surgery, etc.

          Don’t worry about how to express yourself. Just being here and participating is appreciated.

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          1. You are a good man, Tony. Your presence here and your dedication to the people as well as the mission has had a positive effect in more ways than you could even imagine.

            Speaking as a parent, I believe your dad would be very proud and quite impressed.


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          2. Ok, that’s good that your not feeling down Tony. I think what you shared may have brought a few memories rushing back into my mind regarding my parents which is probably what caused my writers block.

            I am sorry to know your friend is experiencing a difficult life. I’m pleased you both share such an authentic caring friendship.

            Tony, there is nothing wrong with you enjoying a good quality of life, you have earned and deserve that. The most wonderful thing I see in this and other situations is that your heart is still sensitive, tender and caring which allows you to see and feel as you do and not disregard or disrespect others that may be in need. That sure sounds like a quality of a very good man to me. I believe your Dad would be very proud of you.

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          3. I forgot to say something in my last reply.

            Just wanted to thank you Tony for the very kind words you offered me in closing your comment above. Very sweet of you. Thank you.

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      2. Thank you Tony for your sharing.  

        I had a mother who had mental health issues.  But I have now come to see her through adult eyes, rather than the child that was hurt, and understand her difficult life.

        I have grieved for the lost opportunities for healing while she was alive.  And like you I learned that having a sense of gratitude makes for a much happier life. 

        I believe that we honour those who have passed by living the highest qualities we know. We need to treat ourselves and others with love and compassion and give a helping hand to others when we can.

        If I was your Dad Tony I would be very proud of you.

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      3. Tony,
        It is a difficult road to go against the majority in a public manner. The majority are products of their upbringing which partly includes the best tools for mind control.developed. It is official policy that becomes a part of the constant messages we receive whether through schooling, TV, The Press, movies etc.

        My parents at times viewed me as difficult, argumentative and reckless especially in my late teens and twenties. I viewed myself as a black sheep in the family because I rejected so many of their normal views and expectations.
        By the time I reached my sixties I kept hearing from various extended family members that I was the only smart one in the family (some had masters and doctorate degrees), I got kicked out of college before the end of my first year.

        I ended up being the most responsible one of my siblings and helped my parents in understanding the estate trusts they were establishing. I became one of three trustees of their estate. After my parents died both my remaining siblings delegated their trust authority to me which I carried out with no compensation. Even my sister with two doctorates for decades viewed me as an ignorant country boy (I deserted city life at 20). In her later years living under my protection in my building she has come to realize that she accomplished little in her life and I understand far more than she ever has. She is always asking me to help her make decisions.

        Though my father escaped combat in WWII because of age and two children some of my uncles did not. Many of my grandfather’s siblings and nephews went through WW I and II. My maternal grandfather escaped from the Army of the Tsar during the Russo-Japanese War (Conscription was for 10 years!) and eventually made it to the US.
        None of his siblings would follow and 3 of his unarmed brothers were murdered at Babi Yar in Ukraine and thrown into a revine like the others. His nephew and family emigrated to the US about 35 years ago and I spent many days speaking and traveling with his nephew, my cousin, who fought from 1939 until the armistice with the Soviet Army.
        My grandfather’s nephew was one of the craziest and most remarkable little Jewish men I have ever known. He found humor and irony in almost everything.

        Learning of the Soviet life and systems through my cousins eyes and seeing his reactions to aspects of life in the US was a gift to me. How did a man who lived through such misery and deprivation manage to find and share so much humor is beyond my comprehension and that he lived to 104 years old with his mind intact. His son tells me when his father woke up in the morning he said a traditional Jewish prayer thanking his God for the gift of life. Now his son is as distressed as I am as he sees the US slipping toward what he left behind. Every Russian or Soviet immigrant I have met has placed great hope that the Trump Administration will reverse the slide toward totalitarianism. We are doing our part here and elsewhere.

        I suppose my basic message to you, which is why I have written the above, is to illustrate all is not necessarily what it seems. Roles get reversed. Beliefs change. The way others perceive us though it may hurt, is not always correct. If every day we do the best we can, show some empathy for our fellow man and lend a helping hand when we are able must be its own reward. It may be rewarding for our psyche to get stroked instead of smacked but we take that chance on the road less traveled. I’ve had my feelings smacked plenty of times and had my integrity and motives challenged and questioned. In the end instead of surrender you get up and move forward if being true to yourself has any meaning for you.

        Keep on an ddon’t beat yourself up to much. A little bit is OK as it promotes introspection.


        1. Thank you, Paul.

          That was most kind of you to share those stories and experiences of your family.

          The account of Babi Yar was heart wrenching. Men driven to madness in time of war is one reason I so desperately want people to understand how such wars really start, and in doing so we can prevent such horrible things from happening ever again. It’s vital that we do so because the next time a country decides to preemptively “end all war with another war”, the technology unleashed will end all war, and end the planet in the process.

          I am planning a trip to Europe next year, including a tour of the Bug River campsites and places in Latvia and Ukraine where such terrible actions like that at the ravine in Babi Yar occurred. It’s important to remember history as it has so much to teach us.

          Thank you for the good advice. Taken in and considered fully.


  14. Thank you so much for taking the time to offer such a wonderful message Tony, it is greatly appreciated.

    I probably make you blush a bit lol and possibly annoy others with the praise and appreciation I repeatedly offer you Tony, I apologize if that’s the case. But how can I not express such honesty when I have found you to be such an intelligent, generous and caring man who has so freely shared so much wisdom and knowledge with everyone here? You have been the most wonderful teacher in so many ways.

    I respect you enormously and sincerely thank you for the personal time you have contributed, the magnificent effort you have put forth and most importantly, for sharing yourself and your life with us all. It’s been an amazing experience being here at WHA with you Tony and all of our wonderful members/contributors. I personally have gained so much and it truly has enriched my life experience.

    Thank you so much Tony and all of the magnificent members here at WHA.

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      1. What a kind comment.

        Tony is right Jamesdarren, just check out my absolutely disgraceful punctuation skills. LOL
        It’s the intent of the expression that is of most importance Jamesdarren and you did very well.


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