Crypto, Through The Tulips, RV



It’s time to move to a fresh thread. Barring any new updates or releases from the official White Hat blog, this thread will remain until the end of the year. All previous threads are still available for reading by accessing the archives.

By now it is no surprise that a rather quiet posture has set in from our sources. Between reports of Elders sojourning in London, and being told that RV specifics are not possible, one can only surmise that the progress is of a forward nature. In the past, progress of a backwards nature was always quick to be released and outlined in no uncertain terms. Despite many weeks passing since the silence has started, no “slipping” has been reported so far. I will leave it to you to determine just what “silence” can possibly mean at this time.

We never started out to be a crypto blog, but many of you are taking more of an interest in this new space and the desire to obtain transformational gains is certainly understood. Given the ongoing RV delays and uncertainty about the final numbers, the needs are certainly understandable. I have done what I could to impart simple rules to keep you safe while positioning yourself for possible future gains. Many have shared their experiences with me, and I am happy to report that almost all of those who have, did great jobs in being disciplined, safe and prudent in their approach.

As I mentioned previously in the last thread, my main anxiety now is that of timing. While an RV is not needed for one to experience a potential windfall from expected crypto value increases, it certainly would be optimum if additional capital could be safely committed before institutional funds are unleashed into the crypto world. We can only hope that fair winds, and the silence from the top, will augur well for events to happen sooner rather than later.

For now, “news risk”  will be impacting on crypto prices due to relative thin liquidity and the naivety and unsophisticated nature of most who hold BTC at this time. Don’t let such shake you loose. In advance of what we know is on the horizon, it is at this time that you must hold on. All manner of jabberwoky will be hurled at you in an effort to make you give up. You should easily repel such urges by safe position sizes. If you find yourself chewing your knuckles when prices go against you, then you probably put in too much in relation to your bankroll, and are now going to doubt yourself. When doubt creeps in, wealth creeps out.

When it comes to speculation of this kind, I have seen people driven to hysterical frenzies resembling rapid-fire schizophrenia intermixed with near uncontrollable urges to crap into their hands and rub it in their hair, just because they heard one financial analyst say one thing, then another one says something different. They don’t know how to maintain a stable position. As a result, they buy and sell themselves into a vat of buttermilk as they chase one opinion after another. Such is the price to pay for letting “news” run your decision. We have seen major institutions bash BTC mercilessly with one hand, and then turn around with the other hand and buy it. Major players like Soros have also been caught doing this. Your antidote against such slimeballs is just to take your position and hold. Otherwise, you are just placing your ship into the hands of a gorilla with ADD.

Binance made more money than Deutsche Bank last year. But no, that’s conveniently ignored because, after all, crypto is a scam. They say BTC is doomed because the electricity used to validate the transactions will exceed that used by Japan in a year. But they forget to tell you that current banking infrastructure already uses 3 times the annual electrical usage of Japan. Godzilla is a bigger threat than crypto is. This is the kind of rhetoric you will encounter in a concerted effort to give up. If you do, someone will come along and buy what you sell – most likely the same interests who convinced you to give up.

If there is truly any value in what you are holding, then time will prove it. Not the opinions of others. There is only one way to find out. Commit to a course of action and don’t vary from it.

The monopoly of money creation and transmission is being challenged by distributed ledger technology. True, the powers that be are also interested, but they will have to share that plateau now, and not be able to exclusively dominate the wire systems where they could take as they saw fit without the ability for others to see it so clearly. Multiple well financed and quality DLT platforms are now coming on line, some completely impenetrable, offering commoners to operate as if a fully equipped bank with the ability to transfer value from point to point, in privacy. This ability, and not straw man, sovereign citizen, UCC, or other regressive legal blather issued by cloistered, self-anointed saviors with cult status at best, will force the changes that so many want to see. The ability to compete equally based on a great technological equalizer will be the key, in my opinion. This will create a whole new angle and fresh plan of attack that few saw coming.

WHA has pretty much accomplished what I wanted with it – introducing people who had an interest in the RV to the right sources for accurate information, and to expose RV/GCR parvenus for what they largely were – overnight shape-shifting opportunists who found a warm pliant market for their income spiel du jour.

From now until the end of 2018 we will patiently await events to run their natural course, and will do what we can to convey news and information as needed. In January we will reassess the lay of the land. If paper exits have occurred by then, closing this particular effort will most likely be the wisest course of action.

It has been a wild ride. So, let’s prepare for all possible outcomes. Thank you for your readership and your participation. I sincerely hope 2018 will see some long awaited releases finally accomplished. Those who have devoted time and effort in advance of such, certainly deserve it.


There is one kind of robber whom the law does not strike at, and who steals what is most precious to men: time. – Napoleon Bonaparte


  1. Bitcoin broke down below the channel from the TA chart published a few days ago. More important it has now broken it’s 10 year UPTREND Resistance. From a cycle perspective this is very bearish……

    From MPC…
    I know a lot of people rant and rave about the log scale. and how the long-term price trajectory of Bitcoin is still positive in terms of percentage movements on that scale. However, every single BTCUSD chart that I’ve looked at, shows a recent breakdown of the long-term uptrend on the log scale. Additionally, the breakdown has happened in the form of a bear flag , on very high volume , with expanding sell-side momentum, and price has even broken below the 200 EMA (in purple.) To make matters worse, BTC is currently trading below the 78.6% retrace, for the entire history of it’s existence. This is extremely bearish for the medium-term outlook.

    Here on the weekly log chart, it’s pretty clear that major support is at $1163. I know I have been talking a lot about $3000 (since March), but in all reality, $3000 doesn’t have a tremendous amount of support, especially when seen from the log scale. So, this chart clearly shows the extreme technical damage that has been done to Bitcoin .

    If we look back through history, we can see that BTC made a high in April of 2013. That high was then surpassed into November of 2013, then price fell back down, eventually testing the April 2013 high as support (pink trendline ) for an extended period of time, into October of 2015. Since then, BTC has made new all time highs, but it has never returned to test the November 2013 high (blue trendline ) for support, the way it did for the April 2013 high. So, I think there is a technical likelihood, that we could be in the process of doing that at this very moment. In other words, BTC could be headed to test the $1163 level for support, and that may be where we finally find a floor in this bear market, should the November ’13 high hold support the way the April ’13 high did. That means that we could witness another 70% decline, before the crypto market finds a floor.

    One thing worth noting, is that BTC has never broken down significantly below the 200 EMA on the weekly time-frame. We are just below it now. So, there is a slight likelihood that we could hold the 200 EMA here, and move higher, thereby producing a floor on the 200 EMA . However, I think that is very unlikely, but certainly worth noting.

    Based on this chart, I think there is a high likelihood that we will visit the $1163 level, before the end of 2019.


    1. This above news about the SEC meeting is the kind of good news that we have been hearing all along that the mature among us have been bolstered by in our buying decisions.

      Unfortunately this market is dominated by very immature buyers who are influenced by bloggers and FUD aimed at these very immature masses of people who have taken down this market affecting the older ones who got into it because they counted on others being wise also in their buying and selling decisions.

      Unfortunately Teeka did not take into account the make up of the players in this market and only compared it to the past Tech market which had a much different profile of investors.

      I trust that the institutions will eventually rescue this market and provide the buying that will help lift up this market and encourage other more wiser investors to enter it and HODL.

      Stay thirsty my friends.


      1. In actuality, the price retreats are not caused by just immature holders, but by many reasons, but such knowledge is useless.

        Teeka was not caught off guard at all. He issued warnings after the peak price in BTC in late December that volatility was coming. And so it did. Anyone at that time who did not want to ride out the volatility could have cashed out with handsome profits. Let’s not forget he also put his clients into BTC when it was around 1500.

        He did not call for an overall exit because taking all those positions to cash would be counter intuitive to his research which pointed to much higher prices in the future. You can’t have it both ways. His is the long game, because that’s where the life changing gains are. To have his clients mass exit then, only to miss out what could be coming in 2019, would be a disastrous move. He also repeatedly told people to use risk capital only, and keep positions small. As such, even a 95% draw- down is tolerable to an investor who knows the ropes in a new market.

        I would also say that his comparing the price action model to the tech markets of the 1990s is not in error. In fact, it’s quite realistic and may not even go far enough.

        The tech investors in those days were just as prone to make mistakes, and many did. The NASDAQ was limited in ways that crypto isn’t. It wasn’t a world-wide easily accessible market. Crypto, for the most part, is.

        Demand and interest is at an all time high. The only thing stopping it, is the lack of institutional on-ramps that provide security of funds and ease of purchase. Those issues are rapidly going to be addressed. And when they are, the investment world will spare no expense to unleash their salesmen to pitch their clients the benefits of taking a piece of this new market. And they will indeed take that route.

        But this time, it won’t be a speculative frenzy based on a geek market free-for-all. It will be because of mass adoption of the best ideas, which will attract capital through traditional investment houses, and this can only mean increased value is on the horizon for the ideas that serve a valuable purpose.

        The long game, if played safely, is where the gold awaits. The massive planning that Wall St is undertaking is like a trail left behind by a heard of Bison. You just can’t ignore it.

        In Vino Veritas.

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        1. As for volatility being a sell signal, I would never sell because of being told that volatility was ahead because you never know how far a market is going down and no one would have expected it to drop this much. Volatility separates the men from the boys and the men hang on during volatility because they look way into the future and at the real news that will eventually lift the market, but the boys sell out of fear and for the wrong reasons.

          Let it be known that I was not blaming Teeka for the fact that I did not sell. I only mentioned him because he was the one who pointed out in one of his videos just a couple of months ago, that there were lots of immature people in this market and that was one of the reasons it was going down. I only mentioned him to tell you that I am not alone in my assessment that one of the reasons that this market.was going down was because of the immature people dominating much of this market.

          I am not going to tell you this to brag but I actually came up with the conclusion that the immature people in this market was one of the reasons for the panic selling and why it was going down. I came up with this conclusion before Teeka mentioned it in one of his videos. So the reason I bring it up in the post above is that having him tell us that and having him do so after I already came to that conclusion really keeps it prominently in my mind and therefore it is easy for me to add it when assessing the market.

          Now, please do not feel you have to “like” this post because you want to show me encouragement in having such wisdom. I need no such juvenile form of affirmation that is built in so many blogs.

          Thank you and stay crypto thirsty my friends.



    2. Yabbadabbadooooooooooo! Thanks Tony.

      I had better get my butt moving and get myself up do date with all the crypto info released over the last few months. This is going to be seriously exciting to experience. I could do with a good dose of excitement too. LOL


  2. OWoN:


    ANSWER: Zimbabwe has a collective IMF approval for c20B. What lunatic thinks quad T Blocks of that garbage will be released. Funded by Santa Claus?

    This is a monthly Asian or Guru failed fantasy. December to February is chaos and reckless absenteeism.Take each week as it comes. Ignore Guru Blogs. Morons breed.

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    1. It is useless for this blogger on OWoN to ask these questions because nothing is going to be answered that will endanger anything that is close to happening. Loose lips sink ships.


      1. There are many NESARA trolls and closet TNT worshipers who lurk there and here. They like to sneak in such tidbits, but they don’t make much headway.

        The SEC is going after ICO promoters who engaged in pumping to inflate useless project values.

        Why not the currency pumpers too?


  3. I wanted to post an update from Magic PC that is basically a continuation of the one I posted in September. As stated before his TA has been spot on since last March for a call of a long nasty bear market to $3000 in Bitcoin. However, we may be seeing the bulls start to fight back. We have started a small new up channel so it pays to watch what happens closely right now. A break of the channel would most likely signal a fall of 25% or more from here.


  4. OWoN:

    CLAIM: Multiple Cabal-influenced countries (Saudi Arabia, Israel, Australia, United Kingdom, Ukraine, the U.S., and others) are being forcibly reformed to meet GESARA compliance.

    Trump is leading the charge in the U.S. to meet GESARA compliance.

    The last remaining conflicts on this planet (Syria, Yemen, Ukraine, Israel-Palestine) are ending.

    The G-20 summit scheduled for December 1 is rumored to be a significant geopolitical event.

    According to sources, the RV is expected to begin after the G-20 summit concludes.

    Once the RV begins, the transition to the QFS will also begin which will include a stock market crash, collapse of the financial system, and the announcement of GESARA.

    ANSWER: Contrary to what is expected, we are advised Trump is declining to meet Putin.
    A lot is in play right now, but the Dork News from the Guru Puffers is remiss of reality.

    1.Funds are beyond finite.
    2.Key Projects will go first whatever. But not for Public discussion.
    3.There are also certain Military /Agency “Considerations”.But not Public.
    4.All these Gesara regurgitated public fantasies won’t fly.
    5.You WON’T be crashing with imminent collapse. Yes, there ARE real issues, but in time.
    6. G20 is already at risk of missing key parties. Way too much informed hype in play. Ignore.

    Private PP’s are playing out first. They are easy to recover vast Tax needs first.

    China alone will decide on Vietnam. It would be an action of such quantifiable arrogance and madness to ignore China’s role as Vietnam’s VICTOR and biggest backer. The US ran away and deserted the poor Vietnamese. The US has no clout there. But your Dongs do not have the same Iraqi problems. Many good Vietnamese went to live in the US. Now good Citizens.

    Before any Public participation is possible, the Military. major PP Creditors, and the BSD’s have to be resolved and redeemed first. Then Public issues may be possible.
    Nothing is simple, but Gesara is for Simpletons. Pumper Gurus.
    Let reality evolve. Steps are highly political. But also complex and sensitive.
    Let it play out as is.
    We talk- Daily- OK? Nothing is unknown. Just ignore Broker diatribe. Please?
    You WILL be advised when Real decisions are made. Until then its delicate. Faith, hope and maybe in time some charity?
    Don’t lose hope.

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  5. OWoN:

    CLAIM: This message came from a friend in RENO.
    From SOURCE – received tonight:
    Good evening good news has been received by T1-T3 in Reno, and T4 will start tomorrow November 29. Hong Kong, Dubai. will finish in the next 3 hours for the 28th November 2018
    Private IMF: We will start next week, (historical Bonds) just when the bank needs to organize BV.
    The CEO of HSBC travels tomorrow Thursday 29 November to Zurich for the same reason.

    From another blogger

    ANSWER: More Guru junk propagated by pumpers. The ONLY thing moving right now are a few very sensitive Sovereign deals and PPs.

    There are no funds yet for public funding. Dongs in time may be OK but there are political issues with Dinars. They are raging at the ideas of any Americans freeloading on their nation and trying the internal conversion route only if possible. Why should they let the Pariahs who destroyed their nation get rich? None of the fundamentalists will allow the US to ride on their oil reserves. Why should they?

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    1. This claim is being pumped by Philip Tilton, a notorious RV false prophet who has been claiming that the RV has been happening every week for the past 5 years. That they maintain any amount of following with such a horrendous record of weekly false reports is a sad commentary on the general mentality of the greater number of “Dinarians”,

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      1. Don’t know this guru, but he sounds like “Bruce” whom I used to listen to. According to Bruce we were always getting this one by the end of the time to his next call or over the weekend. I never heard him pump currencies, but he did make you subscribe to his website where you got a bunch of health products (reminded me of Alex Jones).
        It didn’t take me long to figure out that he was making money as an affiliate .


        1. It’s all part of the act. They have to keep traffic coming back to the site. They do this with “The RV is starting…” lingo that repeats over and over. This way, people have to come back to see why it didn’t happen, etc. They create a mystery, and people have to satisfy that mystery by following the source of the mystery.

          And as you mentioned, there is always some sales pitch weaved into their act. Many gurus do this in varying degrees.

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          1. Totally agree. I see it as form of religious seduction. IMO ‘Guru’ is an appropriate term for these ‘preachers’, and as always there is a hand that promises to give much while the other hand takes. I started watching the RV journey by watching TNT Tony among others. Thankfully I never spent a dime on their rubbish, and it wasn’t so much what was said but the apparent lack of IQ for want of a better term. Same with Dave S and others. I had the question in the back of my mind, do these clowns seriously talk to professionals at a high level?? It just doesn’t add up.
            Like others, I’ve learned the hard way nothing in life is guaranteed. J and those working for a result are dealing with snakes. If things go the way we all hope, great and a challenging new chapter begins – hopefully I’ll be more able to make a positive difference in the lives of those around me. If not, life goes on and full credit to those at the coal face with far more backbone than I could hope to muster.
            Just my 5 cents worth. Have a great day all.

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              1. Heya Aurataya, Thanks for that, just how I see things in my own twisted and mildly psychotic way. Trust all’s well in West Island and you’re looking forward to the impending silly season.

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                1. Absolutely not twisted or psychotic in my eyes PD, makes total sense to me. Hmmm, does that say something about me? LOL And very nice to see a more lengthy comment from you as well. ;-)))))

                  Bugger off you cheeky little rascal with your West Island comment. LOL I should actually ask you how how things are going over in the Aussie East Island? HAHAHAHAHA.

                  Far out PD I have been going through a serious silly season for a few months already. The Christmas silly season should be an absolute breeze to experience. Had to finish renovating my home, put it on the market, get it sold, move out, find a new place to reside temporarily, settle in that place and all whilst being 99.9% sure I have MS which has hugely impacted the normal function of my legs. It has truly been one of this hardest periods of my life to get through. But I got through it on my own and today is my first day off for several months so took advantage of the time I had today to have a huge cleaning day in my temporary residence. Now I can relax. ;-))))))))))))


    1. I think we are right on the cusp of a lot of things being revealed. President Trump is talking excessively about Mueller and this “witch hunt” that Mueller has embarked on.

      Then we have President Trump retweeting the meme with all the bast*ards behind bars. I believe there is a message there as with all of his Tweets.

      We are living in exciting times. I’m glad we’re alive to see it happen. I believe this will make history books.

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  6. There was an announcement made today by the State Treasurer that Ohio will now accept Bitcoin via third party processor Bitpay for business tax payments including sales tax. It is the first state to do so. Business who want to sign up can go to Thought this was very interesting.

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    1. OMG! That video made me cringe. OUCH! Love the meaning though. I think I may have even grown a pair during 2018. LOL
      If you are a sensitive male please do not watch this video ;-)))))))))

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    1. Weiss ratings stated that on Tuesday they would announce the three coins to invest in next month. It’s just a guess but we’ll find out next week. The suspense is killing me.

      They said the first two we probably already know what they would say but the third we would be surprised. I think the third coin will be Holo coin.

      Weiss Ratings Analyst: “It’s very hard for us to envision a future where people are not using Holochain (HOT)”

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      1. Indeed. Holochain is going to be very good in my view.

        Exceptional buying values right now, across the board. All we need now is a damn RV, some luck for the public, and next year we can slide right into a market that’s most likely to be primed for a real boom. Wall St interests are prepping, and the mass adoption of the technology continues. This kind of thing does not happen often.

        I am buying lightly on the way down. And like Sir Lawrence Wildman in “Wall Street”. when it gets low enough, I will buy it all. lol

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  8. OWoN:

    We can’t comment ahead of what [is] being hard fought right now. Loose lips sink ships.

    When dealing with the sheer extent of Banking, Zio filth and Government Deep State Criminals, take nothing for granted. Because no one has stopped them in the past,they will stop at nothing to deny, lie and obfuscate.
    These are the most venal Skunks a species can produce.

    The French Revolution came up with a macabre solution and it needs to be repeated with this appalling human faeces species. Gitmo, DC and Wall Street need the Guillotines.Not only would there be no shortage of volunteer operators, there would be a queue of bids to take turn effecting justice and a years backlog of waiting cases. Deservedly! Their entire assets should be State confiscated, their families thrown on the streets,and filmed for all to see. Skinning some alive for Wallet covers is a starter industry. Save the animals, endanger them.

    There is momentum at the starter gate. The cases are in play.

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  9. We must find time to stop and thank the people who make a difference in our lives. -John F. Kennedy

    I know I post this same quote nearly every year at this time… however, this year it seems especially appropriate and poignant. I am truly grateful for WHA and all who gather here.

    Happy Thanksgiving!

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  10. OWoN:

    Q: Are their any [VIP] wives shopping til they drop tonight? Or is ham on the menu tomorrow?

    A: We know of 2 Elders groups “Happy”. Apart from Bankers and Agencies benefiting from use, we know of no US Wannabes free loading. It’s selective. Many are making false claims. The usual Dreamers. Give it a week let’s see if a second wave comes in. Do thieves pay back?

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      1. Thank you! The very same to you, and everyone.

        I would say compared to news of the last 4 years, this is unique and indicates we have entered new territory. Waiting for a “second wave” would imply the first wave has hit the shore, which in and of itself is a major miracle.

        As we always expected, the big dogs have gone/are going first. The rest? We will wait and see. It should slowly work its way down the legitimate chains until expended. Once we get word that they have shot their bolt, we will likely see legitimate and earmarked recipients satisfied, and the rest organizing to hang, draw and quarter anyone who led them to believe they were going to get a share., i.e., most gurus, channelers, bloggers, promoters, shape-shifters and erstwhile MLM hustlers.

        Good luck to all. If I am reading all of this right, several more weeks may possibly bring forth a clearer picture of just how all of this may work out.

        Have a happy Thanksgiving.

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  11. OWoN:

    Q: Per Robert David Steele, the Rothchilds were cut out of GCR and new ” hard date” for GCR is DEC 1st…. seems lot of peeps talking bout them…. think they are just poster peeps…. but I know enough to look silly only…. just chatting…. Stelle link-

    A: Be Clear

    To get a Rotts deal means them getting Elders support.
    Action 1, A call to London.
    It’s a No!

    The issues you are discussing are well advanced. Politically complex as Rotts own half the talking heads.
    But, the London key Elders link party is NOT buyable, NO Price!
    So the quandary, does Justice win?

    Let it play out.

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  12. Good morning Tony – I went to the DMV yesterday and they said that the Real ID Act is being implemented by Oct 2020. In my case, my DL does not expire until 2021 and said I would can renew six months prior to expiration, showing Proper documents.

    Anyone not compliant will not be able to fly or cross over state border lines.

    Are you aware of this? Arizona is on board as well. I think most of the states are on board.


    1. I have to admit that I was not aware of this. I just had a new license issued because my old one was destroyed accidentally. They said nothing about it to me.

      I have to say that the MVD staff was reduced by half, with automated kiosks taking their place, and reducing the wait times significantly. To me, that was the most interesting thing about the MVD in AZ that I have encountered.


      1. I didn’t invest in Dinar because of what was said on the two blogs and some research. . I wonder why they felt the need to mention ‘Trump” supporters? From my understanding, people invested years before Trump even was a candidate. Another thing to slam him on? the timing is suspect?.

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        1. Probably because it’s fashionable to bash Trump supporters. You know, we are all white supremacists, KKK, Nazi types who can’t do anything except buy dinar and hate others.

          I can’t tell you how many “Obama supporters” have dinar, but the numbers are probably pretty darn high. TNT Tony was a big Obama supporter, and still is. He probably convinced many of them to invest, and pretty heavily as well I would imagine.

          Of course, the media would not do a story on Obama RV fans, because, after all, that would be racist.

          In any event, the hour draweth nigh to whom the Dinar he holdeth. Life will ebb and require moving on either by death or by feet. Nobody will hold on forever. Other horizons beckon and soon thereafter attention will wane.

          Sic Semper Tyrannis

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    1. No matter what the outcome ends up being with the dinar situation, it is utterly ridiculous to associate Trump with it as this article has. I am sick and tired of Trump being blamed for everything that goes wrong in this world. Ok, he is not perfect but I sure would rather have him in the seat than any of those other thieving, corrupt, murdering mongrels like Clinton.

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      1. Soon if left unchecked white males will have to attend mandatory ‘re-education” classes, where they will be taught that they must feel nothing but “white guilt”. Sickening.

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                  1. I believe they would consider you a “token_____” Insert your race. Such as “token Negro”, or “Token Mexican” etc. In other words, you are just an outlier among the majority of whatever race in question. They would never consider a “person of color” could be a racist. Never. Only whites are.

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  13. OWoN:

    Can’t comment right now but main PP’s are hot on all of it. They are fighting their corners. Getting the Fed to walk straight?

    Even clearing DC is no guarantee it will clear the disbursement stages. These people have Form! It’s on the Board, next moves?

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    1. For those of you planning on crypto portfolios, this is good news. More breathing room for a street level RV to start and finish.

      We are living right. Lower prices, and now, more time before key Wall Street processes start.

      May this cursed RV start soon. Good luck to all.

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      1. Thanks Tony. I for one am happy for a slight delay on this before the party really gets going. Hoping for some free days next month where I can concentrate on crypto’s again and build on my position. I am so out of the loop with it all at the moment.

        Good luck to you as well Tony.


  14. OWoN:

    This week is part about trying to get key PPs released before Thanksgiving Momma’s screw up the system for 2 weeks as always happens. Senior Bankers turn into whimpering children dragged shopping by her indoors and then off to see Mommie by annual ritual causing system malfunctions everywhere and chaos the returning week. It’s such a messy process.

    If PPs get paid it starts a recovery process.
    Where are the priorities and where is trust?

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      1. Yes, I believe you are. The Global Settlements are multi-faceted with many parties in play. These are what the military, politicos, key patriots etc., are vying for. It is thought that once the GS goes, the rest follows, which causes anxiety and inquiries to ramp up the minute that anything about possible GS moves are announced.

        The Global Currency Reset is all about Basel 3, and within it is the RV, which is a term specific to the Dinar.

        The other currencies are affected within the GCR processes.

        This entire thing needs to start and finish. It’s becoming absurd to see people acting like they are strung out for a fix every time a possible window opens.

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  15. Hi tony it’s late but hell if I can sleep. So exciting the news from WHA and owon. I sure hope we start to see it all pan out. Its incredible that they would pick this particular time to do so, right in the middle of holiday onset. They must really mean it to be so ambitious at this time of year.

    Also as you predicted long ago the selloffs in the crypto markets are right on schedule. Just before major adoptions by Wall St interests we see the prices being lower than ever in recent times. Oh I hope we see an RV just about now. The bargains are amazing. I am hoping for BTC at 3k or less by end of month so I can start to accumulate again because once ICE and various Wall St houses start opening up that market to their trillions under management look out!

    I remember buying my first BTC at 700, and selling at 1000 thinking I was hot stuff. lol That was peanuts compared to what I took at 18500. Life changing! So many times the media killed off this sector. We know better.

    Happy Thanksgiving to you and thank you for your help over the many months. It’s been a life changer for me and I hope the RV will give so many others a chance to jump in with smartly managed risk capital and have a change at some real gains that are rare. Your comments are welcomed as always because like EF Hutton, when you talk I listen. Dating myself! Your pal C.

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    1. Hey Concord. Glad to hear from you again. I am up, too. Too much coffee, and some chocolate after dinner has me wired for a few more hours lol.

      I would agree that the procedural news at this time of year is rather out of character. We had always assumed that times like these would be impossible due to the proclivities of bankers to work little to make as much as possible. Perhaps this sudden move at this time shows the seriousness of the effort for once.

      Indeed the great slaughter I mentioned at the beginning of the year is proceeding right on schedule. Wall Street interests are not about to pay top dollar for those assets which they intend to sell to their clients in the very near future. Most of their clients have not owned crypto assets, and would not know how. Well, with proper custody and adoption, that will soon be solved, and the brokerage houses will make book, not only with lower price of acquisition, but with fees. Always think like they do. Always act like they do. In the end, slow and steady builds the wealth that others simply give up because they don’t have the power to hold it through all manner of reasons not to.

      You may get your chance at BTC at 3K. I am praying for 1K. But time is short, and BTC has on several occasions bounced back from 70% drops to make new highs over and over. With Wall Street on board, I doubt highly that it will stay cheap forever. This, plus the other quality ideas, like Stellar, ADA, STEEM, Cindicator, NEO, EOS, XRP, etc, offer even better technology at almost unbelievable price value. I can’t believe that these assets are so cheap. It’s like being in Steve Jobs’ garage in the 80s and he is offering you 20% of Apple at $17 a share. You might look at him, the pathetic computer, the rest of his motley crew and say, “No thanks” (as many did). Or, if you did hold those shares, you sold out when Apple was on the ropes years later and everyone was sure they were done, only to see the company come in at a 1T valuation.

      It won’t take much to possibly make a ton, and the risks are so limited in concert with using risk capital only, that the lure is almost irresistible to the truly bold and adventurous prudent speculator.

      Let everyone whine about the volatility. Our job is to safely acquire, hold and shelter in place. The negative market sentiment and the “I told you so” armchair know-bests will do the rest for us, handing us unbelievable entry prices and the ability to cost average current negative equity to lay the foundation for even better gains.

      Now, as you mentioned, if we can get out of this cursed RV paper before the end of 1Q 2019, the gateway to life changing gains will be within the grasp of more people than ever. I love the news we are hearing so far. I hope it all sticks and plays out as intended this year, because another year of waiting will be far too late.

      I have just about chewed my knuckles raw from the hope that this once in a lifetime convergence of exiting a wildly speculative currency position to then enter a once in a lifetime asset class at unbelievable prices, will come together.

      Imagine what we are seeing. All these years of waiting, and all the while alongside, an entirely new technology comes along and presents itself at just this time when we now hear the best possible time for an RV is now upon us.

      We have one chance at this window. In some way I am hoping that those in charge of pushing this button are aware of the above issues and are also wanting to wet their beaks in the same fashion. All we have to do is join them in that endeavor.

      Thanks for your message, and good luck!

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      1. Jeff, you are spot on there. I am still absolutely dumbfounded that this woman was actually elected. I have been trying to work out why those that voted for her did so. The only conclusion I can come to is that they have the same number of brain cells that she does, which in my opinion is extremely close to zero.

        I do have two positive comments about her. She has lovely hair and is quite a pretty woman. BUT…what in the hell happened between her ears. You know, that space in the skull where there should be some brain cells sparking. And her body language needs some serious work. Actually, her body language gives her away completely. She is very easily sussed out if you understand body language.

        I am still shaking my head over this. LOL

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        1. i think we may have ‘hope”. I was talking to my daughter to me that falls into the Gen Z category. She tells me her generation will fix what the Millennials muck up.

          i hate to say it, but if you ask this bubble-brain who won the Civil War, she probably would say the South.

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  16. OWoN:

    Q: Are these funds that are being moved going to any Reno groups? Have the sovereigns already transacted?

    Cheers to you and your BSDs.

    A: As ever with Reno, the receiving bank infrastructure needs to be pre activated first.
    It’s on the brink and while no one can be sure of curve balls, no key parties have been preadvised yet. With Iraq now clearing their own currency is only a matter of time. China’s massive investment in Vietnam is a key dilemma.

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    1. OWoN’s own words from above text: “With Iraq now clearing their own currency is only a matter of time. China’s massive investment in Vietnam is a key dilemma.

      Wonderful to hear positive things about the dinar along with dilemma words about the dong. GO DINAR !!!

      But I am sure the dong will eventually follow the success of the dinar. Give it time ladies and gentlemen.



      1. Yes it’s certainly good to see progress like this after so many years of being stuck in the mud.

        Please keep in mind that he was referring to Reno group issues, and not the public per se. However, if the public has to have any chance, the private groups have to go first. So, your words are certainly not without merit.

        When speaking of the dong, we have always been told they should be good. We can assume that this means at some point the Chinese investment issue in Vietnam will have to be addressed. How, I don’t know, but it makes no sense to proclaim the dong as “should be good” unless the Chinese issue has a solution in the making.

        Good luck!

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    1. Far out Tony! I can’t believe people voted for this nutter. I’m not sure where she gained her Bachelors degree in Economics but wherever it was they should be shut down immediately for failing so miserably to achieve even the most basic level of education. I am completely and utterly staggered by this woman’s ignorance. How can she not feel ashamed of herself presenting herself in public making the absolutely ridiculous statements she makes? I just continue to shake my head with this one. Totally unbelievable.

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  17. It Is Not Over, Arizona Election Results Being Audited For Election Fraud

    “…Despite leading on election night and for some time afterward, GOP Rep. Martha McSally ultimately lost her Senate campaign to Democratic Rep. Kyrsten Sinema. The neck-and-neck race took almost a week to call. The former Air Force pilot initially led her Democratic challenger by about 16,000 votes the day after Election Day. However, the slow count of mail-in ballots pushed Sinema into the lead and eventually handed her victory…”


      1. Hmm don’t know if my last post made it so here we go again.

        Or should I call you Uncle Tony. That’s what the younger people call their elders here. Uncle and Aunty, so I can call you Uncle cuz you are a few years older then me. Lol

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  18. OWoN:

    Q: Is this week red hot???

    A: Your delicate issue.
    Funds were called off to wire to DC Value Monday and draw down Tuesday.

    But, Big BUT!!, we are advised that most will be grabbed by those Elitist favoured, aligned with Senior Bankers, who will both be taking off with ill gotten gains Tuesday evening, being led by the snout by barking wives shopping on Wednesday and Thursday, and off to see their Mammies Friday like big adolescent children. Worse of course, most will not travel back in their own time Sunday, so it will be Tuesday before these pampered Bums return,and chaos for that week. Those not cleared Tuesday will have to re shoot for 2 weeks on.

    The Pigs at the trough will feed Tuesday, you?
    We have Patriots raging! Where is their invite?

    It’s ugly, it’s brutal, it’s endemic corruption, it’s America.
    Where is your role, on the Totem Pole of the greasy American hierarchy?
    Only in America Roger.

    Other nations have real laws, ethics and culture. Only in America does such blatant criminality thrive. Grifters rule. Now they want your guns?

    Q: I’m confused by your statements above. Are you saying the “Elitists” who’ll be funded on Tue hold currencies and just happen to be first in the funding line up or have they siphoned off and stolen funds that rightly belong to other legitimate transacting parties? Are there any legitimate transactions that will be funded on Tuesday?

    A: They will be first in line. Others may be included also. As Bankers will take off shopping from Tuesday night it’s how much can they process before being led off like children by a shopping wife and Turkey duties ?
    Seriously, I think you kill the wrong Turkeys.

    Q: Will there be visible rate changes when this happens next week or is it still behind the scenes?

    A: Unlikely next week’s the pigs need their Ill gotten gains…

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    1. Help Tony! — Would you give your best translation as to what our good friend J is saying? Does “Funds were called off to wire to DC Value Monday and draw down Tuesday.” mean that funds WERE wired or NOT wired? The following sentences make me think that the funds are going to be available to the “Pigs at the trough” on Tuesday of next week. And, it is unknown as to whether there will be anything left for us after the elites feed.

      Also, does “Those not cleared Tuesday will have to re shoot for 2 weeks on.” mean that there could be a two week plus time frame for the elites to finish eating? Any insight into this latest important post from J would be greatly appreciated. Two (or five or ten) heads are better than one!


      1. Well, you know those Brits. They invented a language and then proceeded to screw it all up. lol

        The phrase “called off”, usually means that something is canceled. In this British case, it means designated, or set aside for. It’s like a “call” in poker. It means you bring up funds to put in play. The end goal is to have them liquid by Tuesday.

        Your second question is one I have to guess at in general. I would say that what is meant here is anyone who did not get a payment in the first go around will have to wait for further transfers to come down the pike.

        I would think that all those designated to get paid will know the limits of their payments, and that someone in the system can see what is required for satisfying all of them less what is left over for the plebeian class on the streets. I don’t know how they could arrive at rate estimates without such knowledge. But, I am not involved at that level, and if I were, I probably would be in the pig trough myself and would not care.

        The only sure fire signal for the street is to watch for rate changes, and then move like Pan with flaming nads. The Patrician class has plenty to go around, as evidenced by today’s news. It’s the Visigoths who will have to contend for the spoils at the abattoir. There have been indications that the leftovers may be substantial in and of themselves. But, we don’t have any way of knowing this for sure until the time comes.

        From this time forward, I would be especially vigilant. Since the big boys are on the move, the rest should follow, in whatever fashion. Good luck!

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        1. So if I’m understanding this correctly this includes the IQD and the VND? And where do you suggest we watch the rates? I am currently watching on Will J give us anymore information? Thanks in advance.


          1. Yes, both the IQD and the VND are still in the running, as is our current understanding.

   should be fine.

            J will give us as much information as he can, as his consortial* responsibilities may allow. And, as his conjugal responsibilities will as well. lol

            *Consortial definition, a combination of financial institutions, capitalists, etc., for carrying into effect some financial operation requiring large resources of capital.

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            1. Hello Tony,

              Thank you for the interpretation of the above information. I have one further question if possible, do you remember J posting months ago that “a new US Dollar would be released first before anything else goes?”

              Just curious. Thank you


              1. Something to that effect, yes. The new TRN is supposed to make an appearance at some stage, but as to when I am not sure. It is my understanding that its purpose will be that of a trade settlement note, and not for domestic use. But, as we have seen in the past, so much has changed, and probably will still change as we move forward.


    2. Hi Tony – I find it coincidental that today is the deadline for banks to become compliant for the SWIFT update and with the timing of the elites and top bankers that J states will be exchanging their currencies Tuesday. Do you think that’s just a coincidence?

      Ps – I am still in shock that McSally lost. I really thought she was going to win. Sigh 😔


      1. Maybe I should re phrase the question. Do you think this has anything to do with the rv? I know it states payments in the website but exchanging currency is still movement of money. Isn’t it?


        1. I honestly don’t know if this SWIFT upgrade is part of the plan for the RV, or just happenstance. Either way, as long as it results in proper oversight and transparency, I am for it. It seems to me that they are reacting to DLT and it’s impact on moving money for a fraction of the cost of wires and such. But, I honestly don’t take the time to analyze such things in depth.

          Martha’s defeat at the hands of the Bolshevik, Arizona-hating Sinema, was a shock, yes. But something just isn’t right about her win. How can a Republican Governor win by 300,000 votes in the same county that saw commie Sinema win? Sometimes Republicans can vote Democratic if they are against specific NeoCon war policies, but in this case, Martha was not a NeoCon. Something just does not ring true.

          California was lost because of massive illegal immigration. The Democrats see this, and won’t want the border secured anytime soon. This has resulted in Arizona now going purple. It will be full blown red in another generation. My own niece is starting to spout leftist gibberish, which she learns in school in Goodyear, AZ. I warned her that she needs to take caution in her leanings towards Bolshevik ideology, or my Will may be amended. I think she got the message, but we will see.

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          1. l don’t think that the SWIFT upgrade was specifically for a RV but perhaps it was necessary in order for the green light to an RV? The timing of it is what caught my attention that maybe this time, it’s going to go forward. I don’t recall J being so specific either so that is exciting. Hope we get some crumbs.

            The Sinema win total voter fraud. Everyone know it! I can’t see Arizona accepting this and I hope there will be an investigation to overturn it. People I know there are livid!!

            I’m going to assume that your niece is in her early twenties. That’s why J is looking into the future a hundred years. It will take at least that long to undue the brainwashing in our society, if we are lucky.

            Your niece has no idea how lucky she is to have you in her life. She could learn a thing or two from Uncle Tony.

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            1. Sinema is a dangerous person. But, sadly, unless she it removed by discovery of the vote fraud, then she will most likely hold that seat for several decades. Arizona has been very good to me. I have prospered here, and have no regrets about leaving my native California, which was turning into a third world dumping ground for leftist ideology and horrible anti-American sentiment. I am going to really hate seeing Arizona turned into the same thing. Unfortunately, we are moving in that direction.

              Even my Hispanic friends are horrified at the shameful illegal immigration that is causing our State to turn into California. They want a wall, and they support deporting anyone here illegally. Sinema will work against such a strong border. She will do what she can to prevent it, because she sees the value in future voters for her causes.

              Well, thank you for that comment, but my niece may disagree with you. lol She’s a good kid, smart and good potential, but like most younger kids, she tends to think with a lazy mind which is geared towards peer acceptance and not practical depth of evaluation. I would prefer she stick to becoming a competent contributor to society, and not a left-wing rabble rouser. If I hear one more “whites are racists” thing out of her mouth, I will have to up the volume of my reply to that, as needed. I think she understands that my knowledge of history is far beyond what her Leninist teachers in her school have let her learn, so she’s up for a real fun time if she does not change her tune. Uncle’s words matter.

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              1. If she stays then unfortunately it will become calizona. But look at this way – we’ll be dead or in the nursing home before we witness it to that extent. Can you imagine that women trying to take the guns away? Now that should be interesting.

                Maybe when we have a GCR and Currencies are on a level playing field, the illegals will not have an incentive to cross over the border. Do you think that could be a possibility?


                1. I don’t think the GCR is going to make such people stop coming. They are coming because their respective countries want to cast off the lower third of their citizens, and make them someone else’s problem. You will find no PhD’s, engineers, doctors, etc., in that line. You will find the educated in the proper queues, waiting their turn. These mobs are political tools to force rapid Democratic expansion in the US. It’s working.

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                  1. I thought you might say that. Unfortunately- your right.

                    Let’s hope that the investigation leads to booting this woman out, but with each passing day… what is taking so long!

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    1. I hope all the time that people have spent paying attention to the political news in Iraq will pay off as they hope it will. I can’t imagine what the queues will be like if they get cut off midway with 80% still left outside. Guillotines may form.

      Thank you for sharing.


  19. Some comments as another week comes to a close. It may be helpful to recap the general understanding.

    At present, here is how we understand things to be.

    -The legitimate private currency croups are advancing in their progress to transact. We understand they are making very good progress. Those of you in these groups, please maintain contact with your principals and maintain your confidentiality agreements. Those of you who sent your currencies to parties who are no longer reachable, well, I think that explains what level of legitimacy you ran into.

    – The issue of the ZIM, insofar as a public speculation is concerned, remains a zero chance, according to our London friends. If you wish to hold it, that’s up to you. Otherwise, if you wish to bail out, you will probably find many willing buyers within the TNT/Dinar/Guru/NESARA/GESARA fantasy land. Many of them are still believing they are going to make millions from their ZIM notes.

    -The Dinar remains unclear but has not been totally called out as impossible to gain from when the RV happens. The Dong remains in the running, and is generally considered the best of the lot. Just what the final rates will be, the final amounts allowed in, and the exact process for any street level transactions is still open to guesses.

    – The advice to be quick about getting your currency in, remains in place. So, once you see rates change, move fast. Many in the guru world are being told to “wait for the higher rates”. Well, if you wish to do that, it’s your choice. After this long, I would not risk missing out on something rather than nothing. Whatever you decide, good luck.

    – The fringe programs, like the prosperity programs and various and sundry bank platform trade opportunities that people have bought into since the 1990’s, remain extreme long shots, with almost zero persons in legitimate rolls in finance/banking coming forward to certify such funds in play. People continue to believe that they will get “a knock on the door” and then be handed millions. Their numbers are shrinking now. Another 5 years or so will see most of them passed on, and this segment of the sordid affair will fade into memory. My heart goes out to those in this sector who sat on their duffs, for decades, and let their lives fritter away in anticipation of easy money. Those promoting these things, bear unbelievable shame, disgrace, dishonor and reproach for blindly leading people on, despite zero evidence in hand to justify even the barest notion that they will receive one dollar from these things.

    – NESARA/GESARA remain fairy tales. Multiple inquiries were made about such. It’s nothing more than channeling chowder and grist for blog income.

    – In summary, the general sensation is that RV/GCR progress is strong. Be ready for any and all outcomes.

    Some comments of a personal nature, if you don’t mind.

    The mid terms were surprising in many ways. Districts that handed Trump spectacular victories, suddenly shifted to Democratic hands. In Arizona, Bolshevik airhead Krysten Sinema soundly defeated Martha McSally, despite the fact that in the same district they elected a Republican Governor by 300,000 votes. I have long rejected the claims of voter fraud in our State, but now I am starting to see it being done in unmistakable form.

    The demographics for the 2020 elections are looking grim. The election of hard core communist, Alexandria Ossified-Cortex, points to what may become a very disturbing trend. Voters between the ages of 18 and 25 voted overwhelmingly for leftist candidates in the mid-terms. They are now outnumbering baby-boomers, and it was the boomers who voted for Trump in overwhelming numbers. Hillary shows no signs of being indicted anytime soon, despite having a far more sordid and questionable past than Trump, whose worst vices were sexual dalliances, which are not out of character for a billionaire. But, somehow, he has been accused of collusion with the Russians, and the special prosecutor got traction for his actions with amazing ease.

    The Bolsheviks are on the rise. We failed to exterminate them when we had the chance, and instead, we fought for them and enabled their expansion. Now, they are gaining ground on our own soil and we have only ourselves to blame.

    The only way I see to take the wind out of their sails is to prosecute the top echelon – Clinton, Obama, Bush, and minions. But, I don’t see that happening any time soon. The media and banking interests will be hard to overcome, as we expect them to bitterly oppose prosecutions of their puppet army.

    The enabling of massed illegal immigration has been the tool by which the expansion of the left has been possible, This is why they oppose a border fence being intact, and why they will bitterly opine for the “rights” of the caravans. They know that the majority of these people will become Democrats, and vote accordingly, as will their offspring, as we now see happening with the present millennial voters who were raised by illegals themselves.

    Should Trump lose to Comrade Kamala Harris, the likely contender in 2020, you will see a flood of left wing policies enabled. Universal basic income, Medicare for all, liberal immigration policies, job guarantees, etc., will likely be hard issues to overcome by what will most likely be a Democratic House, Presidency, and in six more years a Democratic Senate. This arrangement could be in place for 25 to 50 more years. The immigration and birthrates of left leaning families is going to all but assure this.

    The wild-card here is what will the GCR/RV mean to the fiscal landscape of tomorrow? Will Trump hand the public a spectacular economic gift? Will our debt be settled? Will taxes be lowered yet again? Will our country be winning ever more? If in concert with prosecution of left wing operatives, this may save us.

    Should we be in the unfortunate position to arrive at 2020 without an RV/GCR, then gods help us.

    Given what is at stake here, you can see why I am very sensitive to making sure we convey accurate information from trustworthy sources, and set proper expectations. The realities of what may come, demand it. To be given a fairy tale as truth, as so many are, is to literally hand that person a poison pill in lieu of a cure. I am most confident that our sources are highly accurate and truthful. No question.

    Should we be fortunate to exit our paper with good gains, then be mindful of the possible political landscape that may await us all. A proper fortress, well planned and erected, may be one of the most important things you can put your attention on. From cryptos, to offshore banking, you may have to use such tools to keep your hard earned fortunes out of the hands of Bolshevik political classes that will push for using your money to fund their schemes.

    Just be ready for it in case, and once you clear, if you clear, start learning how to operate with the most secure, well planned and legal safeguards allowed.

    Have a good weekend.

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    1. Thank you, Tony for sharing your time and observances with us. I for one feel very fortunate to have access to this information, and it is truly appreciated. These are dark days indeed for our country and the world. I hope that we will experience some rays of hope soon, through these possible unfoldments, and for the well-being and future health of this hallowed land.

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    2. Brilliant message Tony. Thank you for taking the time to share those words. I always appreciate you sharing your opinion and advice.

      I agree with everything you have stated with regard to the political landscape in the US. I find it quite unnerving knowing what is happening in your country at the moment. And as for Aus, well we currently have the biggest twit ever created supposedly running this country at the moment. What an utter embarrassment he is. Totally unbelievable. A complete dipstick if you ask me.

      I apologize for not being around much lately offering support and appreciation for all the wonderful posts contributed. Life is a bit of a mess at the moment and I hope to be feeling a little more sorted and relaxed in the coming weeks/months. Well, fingers crossed anyway.

      I hope everyone here at WHA is well and enjoying life. Thanks Tony. Keep smiling.

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      1. No apologies needed! I know a lot of people here at WHA live in the real world, have responsibilities and careers, families and businesses to run, and don’t just sit around. So, feel free to post as much or as little as you wish. With us it’s never about traffic or numbers, but about reality.

        Hooroo mate!

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        1. Such a kind message Tony. Thank you so much for your understanding. You always brighten my mood.

          Your “Hooroo mate” gave me a much needed giggle. Big thank you for that. ;-)))))

          Se ya later alligator. lol

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