Crypto, Through The Tulips, RV



It’s time to move to a fresh thread. Barring any new updates or releases from the official White Hat blog, this thread will remain until the end of the year. All previous threads are still available for reading by accessing the archives.

By now it is no surprise that a rather quiet posture has set in from our sources. Between reports of Elders sojourning in London, and being told that RV specifics are not possible, one can only surmise that the progress is of a forward nature. In the past, progress of a backwards nature was always quick to be released and outlined in no uncertain terms. Despite many weeks passing since the silence has started, no “slipping” has been reported so far. I will leave it to you to determine just what “silence” can possibly mean at this time.

We never started out to be a crypto blog, but many of you are taking more of an interest in this new space and the desire to obtain transformational gains is certainly understood. Given the ongoing RV delays and uncertainty about the final numbers, the needs are certainly understandable. I have done what I could to impart simple rules to keep you safe while positioning yourself for possible future gains. Many have shared their experiences with me, and I am happy to report that almost all of those who have, did great jobs in being disciplined, safe and prudent in their approach.

As I mentioned previously in the last thread, my main anxiety now is that of timing. While an RV is not needed for one to experience a potential windfall from expected crypto value increases, it certainly would be optimum if additional capital could be safely committed before institutional funds are unleashed into the crypto world. We can only hope that fair winds, and the silence from the top, will augur well for events to happen sooner rather than later.

For now, “news risk”  will be impacting on crypto prices due to relative thin liquidity and the naivety and unsophisticated nature of most who hold BTC at this time. Don’t let such shake you loose. In advance of what we know is on the horizon, it is at this time that you must hold on. All manner of jabberwoky will be hurled at you in an effort to make you give up. You should easily repel such urges by safe position sizes. If you find yourself chewing your knuckles when prices go against you, then you probably put in too much in relation to your bankroll, and are now going to doubt yourself. When doubt creeps in, wealth creeps out.

When it comes to speculation of this kind, I have seen people driven to hysterical frenzies resembling rapid-fire schizophrenia intermixed with near uncontrollable urges to crap into their hands and rub it in their hair, just because they heard one financial analyst say one thing, then another one says something different. They don’t know how to maintain a stable position. As a result, they buy and sell themselves into a vat of buttermilk as they chase one opinion after another. Such is the price to pay for letting “news” run your decision. We have seen major institutions bash BTC mercilessly with one hand, and then turn around with the other hand and buy it. Major players like Soros have also been caught doing this. Your antidote against such slimeballs is just to take your position and hold. Otherwise, you are just placing your ship into the hands of a gorilla with ADD.

Binance made more money than Deutsche Bank last year. But no, that’s conveniently ignored because, after all, crypto is a scam. They say BTC is doomed because the electricity used to validate the transactions will exceed that used by Japan in a year. But they forget to tell you that current banking infrastructure already uses 3 times the annual electrical usage of Japan. Godzilla is a bigger threat than crypto is. This is the kind of rhetoric you will encounter in a concerted effort to give up. If you do, someone will come along and buy what you sell – most likely the same interests who convinced you to give up.

If there is truly any value in what you are holding, then time will prove it. Not the opinions of others. There is only one way to find out. Commit to a course of action and don’t vary from it.

The monopoly of money creation and transmission is being challenged by distributed ledger technology. True, the powers that be are also interested, but they will have to share that plateau now, and not be able to exclusively dominate the wire systems where they could take as they saw fit without the ability for others to see it so clearly. Multiple well financed and quality DLT platforms are now coming on line, some completely impenetrable, offering commoners to operate as if a fully equipped bank with the ability to transfer value from point to point, in privacy. This ability, and not straw man, sovereign citizen, UCC, or other regressive legal blather issued by cloistered, self-anointed saviors with cult status at best, will force the changes that so many want to see. The ability to compete equally based on a great technological equalizer will be the key, in my opinion. This will create a whole new angle and fresh plan of attack that few saw coming.

WHA has pretty much accomplished what I wanted with it – introducing people who had an interest in the RV to the right sources for accurate information, and to expose RV/GCR parvenus for what they largely were – overnight shape-shifting opportunists who found a warm pliant market for their income spiel du jour.

From now until the end of 2018 we will patiently await events to run their natural course, and will do what we can to convey news and information as needed. In January we will reassess the lay of the land. If paper exits have occurred by then, closing this particular effort will most likely be the wisest course of action.

It has been a wild ride. So, let’s prepare for all possible outcomes. Thank you for your readership and your participation. I sincerely hope 2018 will see some long awaited releases finally accomplished. Those who have devoted time and effort in advance of such, certainly deserve it.


There is one kind of robber whom the law does not strike at, and who steals what is most precious to men: time. – Napoleon Bonaparte


  1. OWoN:

    Q: Have things changed, or are you still trying to keep information about the RV, Groups, and Currencies off radar?

    A: If we let it slip it gives these Mongrels chance to scream foul and refuse to settle. Not one of these Weasels deserves the right of life, let alone use. So, frustrating as it is, restraint is critical. Varmint protection. They are beyond criminal but control the board. Sensitive with Swine?

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  2. OWoN:

    Next week, release partial PPs , collect taxes protect the Fed? Or not?
    Next week, conceive an amicable solution for Brexit, or not? Chaos follows.
    Next week Mueller decides who next?
    Next week Clinton?
    Next week idiots move from Ukraine and Putin acts?
    Next week Syria clears out Terrorists taking out US and UK contractors with them?
    Next week Flynn forces plea review as coerced under threat?
    Next week Yellow vests across the EU start cross talking? Unity of force?

    Then Xmas chaos for 6 weeks so what next? All is stockpiling up.

    Who knows on any of it . We have to wait but it’s not going away . Their moves now.

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      1. It just means the first payouts with the balance to follow over some type of schedule. Phased releases.

        The protection of the Fed is probably just that they will receive funds via taxes, and thus stay afloat.

        But, as usual, street folk, y’all gets nuttin’. Bankers are not in business to help anyone. Helping would mean actually being human. The entire banking monster is a cold, monolithic, unfeeling slave management system that gives you free coffee and makes you feel like you are cared for.

        Keep that in mind and remember this once the RV is done, no matter the outcome.


        1. Tony, are you hearing anything with respect to the most current position on the public RV chances? I have never understood how a country’s currency can be exchanged for an exclusive group of privileged people, and then withhold their exchange rate for the general public. It seems so underhanded to me. I have also never understood the anger some have against well meaning people who were hoping to gain something through this. It sounds like those who, perhaps, are already fairly well off are those in the elite groups that will receive sizable gains. And, those who need it most will be prevented. I also understand that re-denomination is a possibility — it always has been. Very interesting, indeed.

          I’m hopeful that we will see resolve – one way or another – soon!


          1. I have not heard anything as of late that would lead me to believe that public RV will play out this year.

            As to chances, the dong remains the most hopeful, but no firm rate or time frame has reached my ears from any source that would convince me that it’s a sure thing.

            Even if they do a public RV, don’t expect the luxury of unlimited available cash. Expect SKRs and all manner of limits. I hope it’s better than that, but so far I don’t see or feel a warm, humanitarian underpinning from banking interests set on sharing with love and feelings of abundance.

            The only thing I know about it at this stage is, limits will apply, and be fast about doing it. The rest is a big unknown.

            I wish all well with it. Many are ready to move on to more promising ventures. I feel the tug. Plans are being reviewed for moving onto better things and people want me to do so.

            For now, we will hold on until the PPs do their thing, and see what happens when the dust settles.

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  3. OWoN:

    Q: Do you have any updates on the PPs progress?

    A: Certain key parties have been called in for Saturday meetings to try to progress high pressure releases and attempt to force action and schedules. We are dealing with entities who belong on the end of a rope but Iranian style lifted slowly on a crane and taking up to 90 minutes in some cases to finish them writhing for desperate breath. A fitting end for scum. We have to wait but we are covering any possibility in case.

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  4. This totally put a smile on my face this morning.

    This Cop Thought They Were Alone In Elevator, Doesn’t Know Hidden Camera Is Recording His Every Move


      1. Yes, I see reports of both, but it’s interesting that they filed applications for registering trademarks for such processes. Plans within plans. We will see where that leads, but the chances are highly likely it will lead to wallet storage on these devices in the future.


  5. Some interesting comments from Mountain Goat who is ex army intelligence and was stationed in Iraq. She is one of the few Gurus who doesn’t post for clicks and doesn’t call it everyday. This is a Q & A posted today from her that took place with her CBI contact….

    I am still hearing good news on the reinstatement process and as far as I know it is still on target for LATE Dec or EARLY Jan period. I know there are lots of rumors now flying around as usual about some window of opportunity for an RV happening this entire week. This is simply NOT true.

    So in this regards, I had a recent conversation with my CBI representative and the following is what I was told in response to my questions. I believe that these chat sessions are helpful and I am glad to have at least one source to go to for REAL and HONEST insight and information on this process.

    MG-Is there a plan now to RV the currency this week sometime?

    CBI-NO and I would not tell you if there was! The dinar is not planned for a revaluation. The dinar must first go through a “reinstatement” process. This is a series of approvals but we believe we are close. So these are just rumors. There is no “revaluation” planned.

    (MG Note: I have been telling everyone this now for years. Any significant change in value that we want comes from the “float” on the currency once it is reinstated. This is NOT a revaluation but a market drive on the rate due to speculation. It will then settle down to what the IMF calls its “nominal effective rate”)

    MG-In Europe we hearing you are already educating the citizens on the new smaller category notes. Is this true?

    CBI-YES, the CBI has recently launched the issuance of the second edition of banknotes categories (25000, 10000, 1000, 500, 250) dinars. These versions have high level security features and are more usable. We have not yet issued any other small categories.

    MG-Is there any plans to take these 25,000 and 10,000 notes out of circulation soon?

    CBI-NO. The current effort now is just to replace the amounts now already in circulation with cleaner, more secure versions. The CBI has already reduced the amount of these denominations as needed for currency reform. (MG Note-I was also told that these notes would remain in circulation for at least 10 more years in the future and the plan is to use them mostly for inter-banking transactions for trading partners and not common street use.)

    MG-Many are saying the dinar is now international. Is this true?

    (MG Note-The CBI also wanted to tell me that Iraq’s currency is NOT yet internationally recognized as it still has to be reinstated in the financial trading sectors and from the war sanctions. They know about lots of rumors and speculation is floating around that is it. They told me that it is one thing to be ready and have all the banking reforms in place in order to conduct international transactions but another reality to conduct business with the outside banking system once again using a VALUED dinar. Currently they are attempting to make this transition to de-peg off the dollar but it is difficult but they know it has to be done and is planned “sooner than later”.)

    MG-What remains in this process to get ready for a reinstatement of the dinar?

    CBI-The dinar has gone through the currency reform process and is ready. There is nothing more for the CBI to do in this regard except the CBI must conduct the final phase of the “project to delete the zeros”. It is now more of a political will and cautionary measures, notably the stability of the dinar against the dollar and keeping inflation down by up to 2% at the level of foreign reserves within the rates according to international standards with foreign reserve cash for Iraq (MG Note-we know the reserves are now above these needed levels).

    MG-Did the CBI get approval last year also about this same time?

    CBI-Yes, but the process was held up do to technical matters (MG Note-I took this reply to mean the violation of the 2% spread we all know happened). It did not go forward again until March (MG Note-this was exactly what we can infer from the articles from that time period). Then to complete the new Government ministerial cab and the process of economic reform and economic stability as the Government curriculum meeting comes as the IMF to review and evaluate the efforts The Central Bank. There are conditions of security and economic shocks if it is to be successful in achieving its annual plans and goals. Also combating money laundering and terrorist financing is an ongoing major concern in the process.

    MG-I asked when will this next consultation occur?

    CBI-It is not yet scheduled, but was supposed to take place in September. It is late due the election saga and not having a government to talk to. (MG Note-The CBI is hoping for a late December consultation meeting with a stable government in place.)

    I then thanked the representative and ended my call.


  6. OWoN:

    Q: So what is the status of the sovereigns and the PP’s?

    A: Just watch this and next week. We are waiting on IMF schedules today and Sovereigns to go first. Then Tiers 1 to 4 to be advised. It’s looking like Reno will be the probable cash out point for the Tier 1 to 4 s and that is NOT an indicator of the paper garbage it’s for the Sovereigns and PPs ONLY at this stage . Do not get coerced by the paper pumpers. The US is running scared now of the Russian / Chinese SWIFT alternative coming out and total loss of Petro dollar influence. If they have not settled Sovereigns and PPs by then the US will be in the trash bin for all Influence and a cascade of retaliatory actions are likely . Armed with these releases we can help nations and the US is in Catch 22 right now. The BS ends or consequences will be bankruptcy as the world switches leaving Billy No Mates with toilet paper facing an oncoming sore Butt. See how fast Theresa May will get cannibalised. Shades of far, far, far worse with the vitriol and rage if the US BS continues. If those releases don’t happen, next year will get so bad for America.

    France is coming off SWIFT so it can trade with Iran. As are others.china is building a huge position with Zimbabwe…

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    1. While I don’t entertain any notion that the public will have a go in 2018, the hint that people are pushing for upper tiers to move over this late holiday month denotes a serious effort over a period when most considered it impossible because of Yuletide inebriation.

      However, the processing of the upper tiers is a start, and the denouement, either good or bad, should be at hand shortly thereafter.

      Please be prepared to either move quickly to exit your positions, or, to accept the fact that the paper you hold may be repudiated in its entirety in favor of new issue. Those choices have been with us now for a long time, so know what the possible outcomes are, and plan accordingly.

      I might add that so far, dongs are still described as “should be good”, or “may be good”. Note, not “WILL be good”. It would appear that real world economics and math are soon going to catch up with guru pumping fantasia.

      Good luck to all.

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  7. OWoN:

    Serious negotiations developing between China and Zimbabwe for new currencies next year.

    Watch this site. Do NOT get speculating yet until you know details of what is coming. They may just issue entirely new currencies. Same with Iraq. Let it all play out.

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  8. Gosh dang it! The video banks and blockchain wants to start at the same place. Just rewind it. It keeps starting at the same place. Go figure.


  9. Tony, can you provide your take on the update.
    I don’t see how anything can happen in 2018 if phased releases have not already begun.


    1. Thank you for posting that OWoN comment. I was going to bring it over, but it contains nothing of a new and forward nature, so I deferred. No worries.

      I don’t think we will see a public RV in 2018. Private groups may start some kind of process before the end of the year, but I doubt they will all be funded in full and all at once. It will most likely be in installments, i.e., phased.

      It is clear from the update that the rootless international banking cliques that hold power over our government and many others, are still in power. Just how that impacts timing I don’t know. I would have to have full access to all available information in order to know just how close or far away we are. Since I don’t, I can only guess.

      But, based on what we have been told, and by extrapolating what we can, there are some things going on in the background with PPs that point to progress of some kind. Just what this will mean for public matters is still unknown, and I would not even try to guess. I will say, however, that a public RV for 2018 is probably all but impossible.

      I am still working on my strategic plans for 2019, and I am still not doing so on any anticipation of RV funds. I continue to press on with everything else, but trying to depend on an RV for anything is never recommended.

      I still hope that the public transactions will manifest before institutional mass funding of cryptos begins, and it will begin. No doubt about that. So far, we have been lucky. Wall St, in concert with the SEC is playing the public speculators like a violin, and they continue to bail out, delivering choice prices that billionaire interests are lapping up like hogs around a garbage pit.

      First quarter 2019 will probably reveal the tenor of the rest of that year. If private groups are still unresolved at that point, then it wont be munch longer until some other overwhelming necessity causes most to turn their backs on this entire thing. Life goes on.

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  10. Update from OWoN

    So many need hope and answers.
    Right now it’s beyond sensitive.

    But- Hope? Yes.

    Key Pressure help- China via Xi!

    Problem zones.
    1.US Treasury pending but hidden bankruptcy!!! How long can the lie be stretched?
    2.The Pariah Zionist lying, thieving, cheating Fed in Mossads meddling.
    3.Ensuring that IF releases are phased in, the same Zionist,lying , thieving, cheating Banks do not sequestrate it to stay afloat.
    4. P2 , and the Vatican Knights of Malta are under serious review. So is the Vatican Bank.
    5.The vast array of CIA owned companies all over the world are being assessed.
    6.When, not IF, the US has to take control of its own Treasury, will Trump be man enough to force out the Zio trash en masse? Bennys Zio Boy Kushner, working to both Mossad and his own Crime families orders, will seek to influence Trump on every corner. Kushner has no skills to be in the WH, nor his wife. Each is a threat to Democracy.
    6. Which NON Jew can we trust, who will make the call to take over the Fed and dump all Zios debts in one swoop. As Trump is nowhere near smart enough to understand let alone plan any of it, which NON Jews with experience can he bring on board orchestrate the lot?
    7. Who will De Louse the White House. He is surrounded by them. The whole dam place is a Roach Farm. How can a new, clean, intelligent and ethical Patriot get in without being seriously beholden to Jewish funding as Trump is.

    8. When can Trump start to clear out the Offices of Khazar spawn and start to place real Americans to look after America not that assimilated Roach swarm feeding of its back?

    Therein lies the problem. Have we got 6 more years of this, then can a clean Patriot even get through? How about Laws which control funding and prohibit Jewish meddling and frees up a new media? How about America becoming for the first time, a Democracy? To serve, not enslave its people. How about – We get the Zios snout out?

    As America gets ever closer now to China becoming the Principal Trading domain globally,how much time is left for the US to effect change itself?
    Fine, we stopped Clinton, but where now with this Zio owned Freak Show in the WH?

    We just put a White Elephant into a Formula One Race car without a Driving License or ever having passed his test. Hello? So, with reality issues now backlogging do we have to supply a new switched on Tonto for this Alone Ranger?

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        1. Incredible value across the board. We have essentially re-wound the clock to a year ago.

          All we need now is a g– d— RV. We could not ask for a better sequence in timing than what we see. The SEC can’t keep pushing the inevitable off forever. Too much demand is building.

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          1. What will be will be I suppose Tony regarding the RV. We will all just have to work with what we have in each moment. I hope for the same outcome you do but it’s not looking too positive just now. Although, just imagine the change of energy in everyone if a miracle did occur with such timing. How magnificent would that be to witness?

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      1. Watch the lower time frames. When you see upward price spikes, that’s probably such purchases. However, the broader sell off is from doubt and negative sentiment from weaker interests who need capital and are being forced to sell for many reasons. Weak hands letting go, strong hands snap them up.

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  11. Why I Was Just Called a ‘Stupid S.O.B.’ at a Landmark Crypto Conference in Asia …

    “…Bottom line: Blockchain is going to make armies of accountants, lawyers, custodians, transfer agents and back-office personnel obsolete. IDC, a global information technology research firm, expects blockchain to become a $7 trillion industry by 2022…”

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  12. This video is from a very respected guy in the XRP community. Urging people to diversify- Many people in the community only hold XRP.

    I wanted to share this because many of the cryptos are ones that Tony had shared in the past and according to him (crypto bear)- big things about to happen in the next few weeks. Here is a list of his personal holdings.


    Published on Dec 3, 2018
    This is not financial advice. Just a friendly message from a friend to a friend. I’m just a boring hedge fund manager that wants to help as many people as I can before I strike it out on my own.

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  13. OWoN:

    Q: What is the latest on PPs and Battalions?

    A: Right now a US based PP is foremost. Elders will not be feeding again until after March or later. That works for us. IF big IF the US Treasury redeems part of what is long, long overdue. We are dealing with a Pirates Nest. All Freeloaders?

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    1. Tony- Enjoying the “show”? I am trying to be nice, he was the President, so I respect the office, not the man.

      This latest note suggests to me we are in for the long haul again. Time to put everything away this year?


      1. I hear you. Yes, the office should be respected. I have to admit I know little about Bush that I have not already learned from the usual sources. The entire planet is enmeshed in a system of management that promotes and fosters corruption, strife and struggle, and these powerful men are simply reflections of it. So yes, the “show” is something I do “enjoy” watching, but I could use a change in venue.

        I am pretty sure a public RV for 2018 is all but impossible. The big private groups are still not in an effective commencement mode, to my best knowledge, and here we are in December now. I am not even sure the public will have a go until late 2019 or even 2020. It’s looking grim.

        I hope I am wrong. Very wrong.

        I am paying less and less attention to RV matters as time goes by and focusing on my personal business, crypto, and other new and emerging areas of interest. So, we will defer to our white hat friends for all information on this, and I will probably not make any more “back channel” requests or inquiries along this line.

        At some point my personal affairs are most likely going to swamp my blog time entirely, and as I am sure all would agree, time has to be placed where it is most effective. I was hoping very much that the public would commence before the end of 1Q 2019. I don’t see it yet. So, we will press on, watch, listen and try to ascertain just what may come and when. I will do what I can to assist in this continuing monitoring of events and news, but like all things in life, one must go where their talents can be brought to join in opportunity.

        I fully admit that there are transactions and discussions going on out of my sight and knowledge, that if known would perhaps color my present attitudes and beliefs. This is why I am willing to stay the course to see just how these unknown occurrences may manifest.

        Things have changed on a dime in the past, and they may indeed in the future, so I would stay organized, and be ready to move as quickly as possible. We have been warned that things may happen when we least expect it, so don’t take my grim words as any excuse to ignore such admonitions. They know more than I do, and that’s just fine with me.

        Thanks for your comment!

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